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Alternative Chaos Pact Roster

Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 4:20 am
by Mirascael
The Caos Pact roster is definitely broken under the current rule set. Nevertheless, I have always been a great fan of the Chaos All Stars and prettified our city with quite some CAS-graffitis when I was young, so I'm just curious if the following roster would be balanced:

0 - 16 Chaos Marauder 6 3 3 7 Block, G 60k
0 - 2 Chaos Mutants 6 3 3 8 G, Phy 60k

RR: 90k

Big Guys:
0 - 1 Ogre
0 - 1 Troll
0 - 1 Minotaur

Allied races:
Orc, Skaven, Chaos, Goblin, Dark Elf, but no norse (belong to the lustrian roster)

Even though the team now has more AG 4 access due to the dark elves, the price for the linemen should make it really difficult to get a roster containing developed players of all allied races and big guys. Similar to wood elves, the team should struggle to keep a full roster if it tries to max out the positional players. Would the suggested roster be balanced provided that big guys had no access to general skills?

Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 6:32 am
by plasmoid
Hi Mirascael,
IMO this isn't balanced. The problem is the 3 big guys - which is the same problem that the "official" roster had.
You may think me insane, but I think I could get good result with this team without the allies. I.e. just the norsemen, beastmen and 3 big guys. IMO, this means that something is wrong.

Cheers
Martin

Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:26 am
by Joemanji
The problem with this is that it is the bashy team of all time - with a MV 9 AG 4 gutter runner. It would be virtually impossible to stop the one two turn score against these guys. The team would just have it too easy... :)

Joe

Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:35 am
by Joemanji
IMO, a Chaos Pact roster would look alright as something like:

Code: Select all

CHAOS PACT
0-12 Linemen         50k   6 3 3 7  Block  {gen}
0-2  Chaos Warriors  100k  5 4 3 9  -  {gen, str}
0-1  Chaos Dwarf     70k   4 3 2 9  Block, Tackle, Thick Skull  {gen, str}
0-1  Dark Elves      70k   6 3 4 8  -  {gen, agi}
0-1  Skaven          50k   7 3 3 7  -  {gen}
0-1  Orcs            50k   5 3 3 9  -  {gen}
0-2  Goblins         40k   6 2 3 7  Dodge, Stunty. Right Stuff  {agi}
Rerolls = 80k
1 Big Guy from Ogre, Troll, Minotaur.

Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:51 am
by RogueSangre
If you wanna make it more like the Chaos All-Star list and less 'overpowered' just replace the norse linemen w/ gobbos and limit to 2 big guys

This would mean that noone in your league will want to take the standard gobbo roster though.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 3:03 pm
by plasmoid
Hi again Mirascael,
I think that if you want to stick with the 3 big guys then everybody else has to be linemen. IMO, position players and 3 big guys don't mix.
Cheers
Martin

Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 4:55 pm
by ScottyBoneman
Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury, this team is just overpowered and the concept itself makes it very hard not to be. It does not make sense.

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Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 7:29 pm
by Melifaxis
ScottyBoneman wrote:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes!! The Chewbacca Defense :D

Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 8:58 pm
by Skummy
Did someone just call shennanigans? I'll get my broom.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 11:12 am
by plasmoid
Hi all,

ScottyBoneman said:
>Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury, this team is just overpowered and the
>concept itself makes it very hard not to be. It does not make sense.

IMO, the base mechanic (2 linemen er 1 pos.) is a good one.
the balance depends on which races, how many, and the number of big guys stacked on top. Particularly the quality of the available linemen has a huge impact.
We've managed to create an Old World based mixed team that we are quite satisfied with.
It can be done :)

Martin