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All players have stand firm and wrestle


0-16 Rihiski 5 3 2 7 W SF 60K General **S,P,A
0-4 ōzeki 6 3 3 7 W SF 80K G S **A
0-2 komusubi 7 4 2 7 W SF 90K S **G,A,P
1 Yokozuna 5 5 2 8 W SF Loner Leader 120K S **G,A,P (Big guy about the size of a blackorc, basically a short fat ogre)

(fat players running around in their mawashi <the loincloth that looks like a diaper> with the sagari sculpted on the legs <they would be to fragile to hang strands down free, the strands would break)

rerolls 60K

I like the concept and they look similar to Norse with Wrestle rather than Block. I do think Wrestle on the Str 4 and 5 pieces will make them to reliable and almost breaks the no starting Block on Str+ figures rule. Also the Big Guy has no negative skill other than Loner which makes him far to reliable when combined with Wrestle, and all for only 120K. I think Stand Firm on the whole team is broken and the players are under costed compaired to teams such as Dwarves and Norse.

Using Jervis' player cost formula, your costs are a bit out and should be:

0-16 Rihiski 50k
0-4 ōzeki 90k
0-2 komusubi 120k
1 Yokozuna 130k

Plus as Long_Bomb said, you need a nega-trait on the Big Guy

Terrible idea IMHO but if you persist that Yokozuna should have a nega trait and be at least 190k because of the starting leader

rodders wrote:Terrible idea IMHO but if you persist that Yokozuna should have a nega trait and be at least 190k because of the starting leader

Agreed, stand firm is far to good a skill for an entire team to have it. I also agree on the nega-trait and no team should start with a leader unless its a joke.

axiom wrote:Using Jervis' player cost formula, your costs are a bit out and should be:

0-16 Rihiski 50k
0-4 ōzeki 90k
0-2 komusubi 120k
1 Yokozuna 130k

Plus as Long_Bomb said, you need a nega-trait on the Big Guy

Here is my take: I would value SF at 20k. The 30k pricing was probably fixed when the skill was much better than it is currently. I would also value Wrestle at 20k, but I keep in mind it is a clearly good bargain.

0-16 Rihiski 50k (Rounded up from 40k since SF is only accessible on a double roll).
0-4 Ozeki 70k (Fair price for a positional player)
0-2 Komusubi 120k (Rounded up from 115k but I dislike Wrestle since it almost goes against the "no Block on ST4" rule. No G access somewhat makes up for it.)

The Big Guy is completely off and should be redesigned from scratch.

axiom wrote: Here is my take: I would value SF at 20k. The 30k pricing was probably fixed when the skill was much better than it is currently. I would also value Wrestle at 20k, but I keep in mind it is a clearly good bargain.

0-16 Rihiski 50k (Rounded up from 40k since SF is only accessible on a double roll).
0-4 Ozeki 70k (Fair price for a positional player)
0-2 Komusubi 120k (Rounded up from 115k but I dislike Wrestle since it almost goes against the "no Block on ST4" rule. No G access somewhat makes up for it.)

The Big Guy is completely off and should be redesigned from scratch.

0-16 Rihiski W G,P **A S 5/3/2/7
0-4 Ozeki W G,S **A 6/3/3/7 70K
0-2 Komusubi W SF G,S **A 7/4/2/7 90K
0-1 1 Yokozuna W SF Leader Loner Take Root S,G **P 4/5/1/8 140K ^^The Leader is based on Sumo lore as being the grand champion, Take Root will be based on his massive bulk

Take Root

I think the concept itself is a bit flawed, can you imagine sumos actually running around a pitch for over an hour?

arthurinkpen wrote:I think the concept itself is a bit flawed, can you imagine sumos actually running around a pitch for over an hour?

you have to stretch the imagination as there are no halflings to eat on the team

You need to model some big bowls of rice to go on the endzone then. That will give them some insentive.

arthurinkpen wrote:... running around a pitch for over an hour?

Interesting concept.
I always thought BB match would be very very short. Essentially if we move away from the concept of timing a turn, which would probably give you some absurd number (a few minutes?) I would imagine that even "strong men" carrying metal armour and running on a pitch would be done in 20 minutes or so.

I portrayed the games as being 2 halves of 10-15 minutes, any "contact" sport usually uses short round like boxing for instance 3 minutes.

Anyway possibly another thread, and very much a RP question, since there would be no exact answer to this question.

you missed the rules change of knocking a player down sets him out of the game LRB 8,000