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[fatfinley]

New Blog Down article "The Del Zine Cup" posted on Both Down. Please check it up and leave some feedback http://bothdown.com/

[Kilowog2814]

Well... there's another new post on the website Both Down just to whet your appetite until the new episode comes out hopefully tomorrow or Wednesday.
Enjoy!

[fatfinley]

Episode 4- Wild Night is up! Home Brew, Behind the Fluff with Jonny P, Tournament Talk covering Bugman's Bowl. Almost 3 hours of Blood Bowl fun! Go listen...

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[fatfinley]

Both Down #5 – Empire State of Mind

This is it, the episode that will make you a true believer in Both Down… or make you unsubscribe us! In this episode you will hear segments like “Coach to Coach”, “Miniature Mayhem” and the always awesome “House Rules!” Enjoy the sounds of Steve and Scott as they deliver you another great podcast full of fun and fluff like only the Both Down guys can, and if you don’t… well the Ginger Badgers don’t care!

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[Jonny_P]

Great episode fellas.

[van der vaart]

Keep up the good work guys

[Rewslaun]

I couldn't handle playing with random skills.

[Kilowog2814]

Thanks for the feedback!
I can definitely understand people not wanting to do random skills. It's a very different game at that point. Not majorly different, but a lot less you have to worry about.
I think if more people tried it, they'd enjoy it. But I thought the same thing of <insert niche cool item from your childhood that didn't catch on> but apparently not...

[fatfinley]

I couldn't handle playing with random skills.

You could if the whole league played that way. Probably comes down to how you started playing. I have a very hard time finding any fun in picking skills when I play in league on FUMBBL.

[SunDevil]

Scott! Thanks for the shout out for our 3DB Highlander League semi-final tilt on FUMBBL! I'm glad I was not the 'negative experience' you discussd having on that site recently. Or was I...?

Our two local leagues are 100% 'pick your skills' but we recently had a third league that was 'first skill random'. I played in it for three seasons. Like you and Kilowog discussed, the main problem with random skills is that is flat out RUINS some players. I played Nurgle one season, my lone Pestigor skills up in Game 1 - POW! - Extra Long Legs. Blech. Set the team back horribly.

And that was only making the first skill random. But some first random skills are so bad, it cannot be fixed. I'm glad I have that experience but I will never go back.

You guys talked about pick-your-skill being boring because there are some commonly accepted "best" builds but I don't think it is quite that black and white. Lots of people like Dodge on Norse Zerkers double rolls but what about Diving Tackle to go with their Jump Up? How about a Chaos Pact team that features Dump Off since all Linemen canget it normally? Having a "best" build (and I use that term VERY loosely) just means you have something to play against when you pick - do you go by the book or try to find something different. Random skills doesn't give you that chance to explore, it forces it on you at the expence of lots of ruined players.

I do think the 'Pick 6' is a better compromise and we use that as well, sort of, for deciding MVP, though it's 'Pick 3'. This is already a chaotic game, there needs to be SOME order to balance it.

Kilowog, I was glad to hear you connect your Norse success with the random skill environment in which the team plays. That absolutely favors teams that start with good foundation skills and you guys, to your credit, did mention this. I do not mean to discount your skill as a coach but we ALL need to remember that connection. I coached CONTROL Nurgle into a Blood Bowl locally but trying it on FUMBBL Blackbox for example will get your players killed. However, I enjoyed your breakdown of the benefits of one die blocks with your Norse vs letting the opponent block you with two dice. I like Fend on the Linemen but only because they do not get ST access on normal rolls.

Great ep, guys, and I hope to sit across from you at Chaos Cup this year!

[Jonny_P]

Great ep, guys, and I hope to sit across from you at Chaos Cup this year!

Ooooh, another Podcast Showdown...

I might have to randomly make this happen!

[van der vaart]

Great ep, guys, and I hope to sit across from you at Chaos Cup this year!

Ooooh, another Podcast Showdown...

I might have to randomly make this happen!

It would be good to listen to another podcast show down

[Kilowog2814]

It's gonna be a Both Down Show Down!
Winner takes the other's podcast!
Then I'm going to lose...
BWAHAHAHAHA

[SunDevil]

It's gonna be a Both Down Show Down!
Winner takes the other's podcast!
Then I'm going to lose...
BWAHAHAHAHA

If I'm lucky enough to win and take over BOTH DOWN, I'll uphold the Ginger requirement. I shave my head but other arrangements can be made. Drew is already a Ginger so it all works out.

Little Known Fact - 3 out of 6 North American BB podcast hosts are Gingers. True story.

[van der vaart]

It's gonna be a Both Down Show Down!
Winner takes the other's podcast!
Then I'm going to lose...
BWAHAHAHAHA

If I'm lucky enough to win and take over BOTH DOWN, I'll uphold the Ginger requirement. I shave my head but other arrangements can be made. Drew is already a Ginger so it all works out.

Little Known Fact - 3 out of 6 North American BB podcast hosts are Gingers. True story.

Turn it into a Goblin and monkey podcast Chance (hosted by gingers of course)