When is a player worth retiring?

Nik_the_Pig · Post by **Nik_the_Pig** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:12 am

I've got three teams in my local league, all of which have suffered a few deaths recently and some permanent injuries. Due to MNG's and deaths all of the teams are currently using journeymen to make up the numbers.

My query is which of the following players would you retire?

Goblin team (after two games - 1 gobo dead already)
Gobo, no SPP's, Niggling Injury

DE team (after 4 games - 1 line elf and a blitzer dead already)
Lineelf, no SPP's, -1 MV
Witch Elf, 3 SPP's, -1 AV

CD team (after 3 games - minotaur dead already)
Hobgoblin, no SPP's, -1 AV
CD, 4 SPP's, -1 AG

DesTroy · Post by **DesTroy** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:38 am

Nik_the_Pig wrote:I've got three teams in my local league, all of which have suffered a few deaths recently and some permanent injuries. Due to MNG's and deaths all of the teams are currently using journeymen to make up the numbers.

My query is which of the following players would you retire?

Goblin team (after two games - 1 gobo dead already)
Gobo, no SPP's, Niggling Injury

DE team (after 4 games - 1 line elf and a blitzer dead already)
Lineelf, no SPP's, -1 MV
Witch Elf, 3 SPP's, -1 AV

CD team (after 3 games - minotaur dead already)
Hobgoblin, no SPP's, -1 AV
CD, 4 SPP's, -1 AG

Dump all except the Chaos Dwarf; CDs don't need AG anyway.

Nik_the_Pig · Post by **Nik_the_Pig** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:52 am

That's what I was thinking as the gobo/lineelf/hobgobo are all worse than a journeyman of thier kind. My real dilemma isthe witch elf as she is only one of 3 (remaining) positionals in the team and is potentially still better than a lineelf journeyman. But do I want to risk a player I will want to retire getting SPP's? Or with such a low AV getting taken out early every game?

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:52 am

IMO any player that hasn't reached their first skill roll and has a NI, or stat decrease is a no brainer for being dumped. Give them their pink slip and tell them to join a StreetBowl team.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:11 am

Keep them all as LoS fodder.

TuernRedvenom · Post by **TuernRedvenom** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:36 am

Joemanji wrote:Keep them all as LoS fodder.

well, not all but surely the elf lineman and chaos dwarf. Fire the rest! A gobbo with a niggle is a free cas for your opponent. Witch elf, same deal get rid of her before she sucks up any more spp's.

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:17 am

I don't want any of them getting SPPs. As far as LOS fodder, all the teams are already using Journeymen so you already have fodder.

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:39 am

Fully agree with DesTroy... ditch all but the CD, who doesn't need AG....

I play my journeymen much wilder than my regular players.... Give them the dangerous jobs and the most 2 die you choose blocks... if they survive with SPP... well then... welcome to the team! If they get smacked down... then they just weren't up to team specifications....

atropabelladonna · Post by **atropabelladonna** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:00 pm

TuernRedvenom wrote:
Joemanji wrote:Keep them all as LoS fodder.
well, not all but surely the elf lineman and chaos dwarf. Fire the rest! A gobbo with a niggle is a free cas for your opponent. Witch elf, same deal get rid of her before she sucks up any more spp's.

Agreed! I would keep the -1 MV elf for the line of scrimage. That chaos dwarf is just as good as any other dwarf

I may also be tempted by the witch elf. She costs alot to replace and once she gets block she would be pretty durable. She is only a TD away. Your choice.

zephard · Post by **zephard** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:09 pm

I think let the WE go. She will be worth less down the line. And currently she could take potential SPPs from others that would be better served by them, and leaving your TV up higheer than it really should be.

Ogre Marauder · Post by **Ogre Marauder** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:16 pm

Keep the WE until she skills up. If it's not a double or +AG/+ST then sack her...

BFN

Paul

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:53 pm

TuernRedvenom wrote:well, not all but surely the elf lineman and chaos dwarf. Fire the rest! A gobbo with a niggle is a free cas for your opponent.

If you rely on journeymen, you can never have more than 11 players. At least if you keep these guys you can have some reserves. I have 3 players with niggles on my orc team ... none have suffered more permanent damage yet, and they must be running to 20+ games between them. A niggle is NOT a reason to sack someone in LRB 5. Let them die on the pitch.

Drakeular · Post by **Drakeular** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:43 am

Don't forget that a Stat decrease doesn't low the players value.
So if they did get a Stat increase to counter the decrease then they are an over priced player and you either give away extra Inducement money or make the Inducement Money to you less.

How much your Team Vaule is and keeping that to a minimum is important now in LRB5.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:12 pm

Drakeular wrote:How much your Team Vaule is and keeping that to a minimum is important now in LRB5.

Really? Thanks.

The whole point of line fodder is that they die ... but they die, rather than a player you actually want to keep. Also bear in mind that journeymen have Loner, and so are comparitively more overpriced than a proper lineman with -1 MV or -1 AV.

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