Frenzy & bonus square?

[hpb]

Hi,
could not find an answer to my question via search.

Imagine you blitz with a frenzy player. You have to GFI once to reach the opponent, then you GFI the second time to blitz.
You throw the block and get a push-back result, so you push your opponent and follow up.
Now comes the interesting part: The rules say you have to throw a second block unless you can not GFI again.
Does this mean:
A) The frenzy player cannot throw the second block
or
B) he does not have to throw the second block, but he may if he wishes.

If it is B), does he have to GFI a 3rd time or just gets this last square as a bonus?

[Urb]

No, he cannot throw another block cause he is out of movement, which he used on his second gfi to throw the first block. So A.

[Darkson]

However, if the Frenzy player has Sprint, then the answer is b), as they are not forced to use Sprint, but can if they want.

[Dzerards]

However, if the Frenzy player has Sprint, then the answer is b), as they are not forced to use Sprint, but can if they want.

Really? I know most skills are optional, but I would of thought the wording to frenzy meant if you have sprint then you must use it to get that second block in. The word must is in bold about six times in the skill description.

[daloonieshaman]

that is very grey. It says you must GFI if you are out of movement. But a lot of people will argue the skill use.
Does frenzy cancel out the optional skill use?

[lunchmoney]

Not grey at all. Frenzy you have to use, Sprint you dont.

[Joemanji]

Agreed. Sprint use optional.

[Dzerards]

I would say it's grey enough. It says you must throw the second block unless you cannot GFI again. If you have sprint then you have the ability to GFI a third time. Does the "must" in the frenzy description overrule your choice whether or not you would like to utilise that skill? I don't know. I think in intent it might do.

[Darkson]

I think in intent it might do.

it doesn't, and there's a post from Galak somewhere on this board about it.

[Darkson]

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=24322
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=25392

[Dzerards]

Fair enough.

[daloonieshaman]

I think in intent it might do.

it doesn't, and there's a post from Galak somewhere on this board about it.

he doesn't count, after writing the rules and being kicked to the curb, his opinion is useless to Granny

[Smurf]

The words uncontrolable psychopath means you do not get to decide which skills he has to use.

The bottom of the paragraph clearly states "he cannot GFI again"... this means a player with sprint will use all of the sprints to perform the blitz with Frenzy.

GFI means you can go an extra 2 squares
Sprint means you can go an extra 3 squares
Frenzy means you have to optimise you movement to get the 2 blocks in on the blitz.

It seems logical that if you can, you must.

[hpb]

as Darkson said before, this question has been clarified:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=24322
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=25392

as use of skill Sprint is not mandatory, you do not have to GFI a 3rd time.

[Smurf]

Then you do not have to GFI at all as it is also optional?

Sorry this is where rules lawyerism is about to contradict the meaning of the skill.

It could be that frenzy negates the optional use of sprint becuase you have to GFI if you can!

They should have thought about this in CRP as it was brought up in 5th and not post script it.

Frenzy clearly states that you must if you can. Thus removing the option of not using a skill.