Dungeonbowl playtesting Q+A

falconeyed · Post by **falconeyed** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:37 pm

mrbrownesquire wrote:Does anybody have any thoughts about dungeonbowl league play. What with there only ever being one touchdown, SPP are alot harder to come by. Bashy teams still have the opportunity for SPP, but AG teams seem to lose out.

Maybe add SPPs for catches? 1 point for a normal catch and 2 points for catching a pass bounced off of a wall?

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:54 pm

Any extra SPPs should be for Dungeonbowl specific actions in my opinion. Such as locating the ball, wall slam KOs and jumping over pits.

Master Wang · Post by **Master Wang** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:55 pm

A point for pushing people into traps, chasms etc? It's a crowd pleaser, but might be too easy a way to earn SPP. How about for jumping X number of squares? Are all the pits etc the same size? Just make it wide enough so that elves won't automatically do it. Just throwing ideas out, but agree with Stu that the SPPs should be earned for Dungeon Bowl specific actions.

mrbrownesquire · Post by **mrbrownesquire** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:22 pm

How about this for new SPP allocations:

Passing - 2 SPP - Passing is harder due to enclosed spaces

Cas - 3 SPP

Int - 3 SPP

TD - 5 SPP - as the only tochdown wins the game

MVP - 6 SPP - to (almost always) guarentee one new skill after wach game

Crowd-pleasing SPP

Finding the ball - 1 SPP

Foul Cas - 1 SPP

Pushing into a pit - 1 SPP

Wall slam block - 1 SPP

Push into a teleport - 1 SPP

any thoughts, too many?

hoomin_erra · Post by **hoomin_erra** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:44 pm

Drop cas to 2, it's the same difficulty.

Drop int to it's normal 1, sames chances of success

Push into pit, Wall Slam, and Push into Teleport drop, as there are chances of cas SPP's there.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:20 pm

hoomin_erra wrote:Drop int to it's normal 1, sames chances of success

Er, you know you get 2SPP for an intercept normally?

Push into pit, Wall Slam, and Push into Teleport drop, as there are chances of cas SPP's there.

Not for the pit (same as a crowd push), nor the teleport (cas roll if teleport to the same square).
Wall slam I agree with - drop.

hoomin_erra · Post by **hoomin_erra** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:22 pm

Damn, ok, some one gave me a duff copy of the LRB then.

PubBowler · Post by **PubBowler** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:58 pm

hoomin_erra wrote:Damn, ok, some one gave me a duff copy of the LRB then.

That's a better excuse than normal Rob.

Whoose been helping you?

Stout Youngblood · Post by **Stout Youngblood** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:58 pm

mrbrownesquire wrote:How about this for new SPP allocations:

Passing - 2 SPP - Passing is harder due to enclosed spaces

Cas - 3 SPP

Int - 3 SPP

TD - 5 SPP - as the only tochdown wins the game

MVP - 6 SPP - to (almost always) guarentee one new skill after wach game

Crowd-pleasing SPP

Finding the ball - 1 SPP

Foul Cas - 1 SPP

Pushing into a pit - 1 SPP

Wall slam block - 1 SPP

Push into a teleport - 1 SPP

any thoughts, too many?

I like them all.

mrbrownesquire · Post by **mrbrownesquire** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:49 pm

Another qusestion raised from today's game - can you use a team reroll on a teleport.

landrover · Post by **landrover** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:48 pm

mrbrownesquire wrote:Another question raised from today's game - can you use a team reroll on a teleport.

We have always played it that you can't as it's part of the Dungeon mechanics. Fluff-wise we played it like the crowd - you can't re-roll a crowd injury.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:50 am

Yep, agree.

MadLordAnarchy · Post by **MadLordAnarchy** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:25 am

Not sure why you're restricting yourself to 1 ball and 1 TD. Just like in pinball, surely the game is best when it's multiball (and therefore more SPPs happening).

hoomin_erra · Post by **hoomin_erra** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:35 am

Good idea MLA, and it could work like this.

First to 5 TD's wins. Chests have wee teleporters in them so that after each TD, each chest is randomly filled with either another bomb or ball.

Once a TD is scored, remove all chests, fill with the usual 1 ball and rest bombs, mix up, and place on the same spots again. If you want the Multiball option, make it 2 balls. I think any more than 2 would get a bit much.

mrbrownesquire · Post by **mrbrownesquire** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:45 am

hoomin_erra wrote:Good idea MLA, and it could work like this.

First to 5 TD's wins. Chests have wee teleporters in them so that after each TD, each chest is randomly filled with either another bomb or ball.

Once a TD is scored, remove all chests, fill with the usual 1 ball and rest bombs, mix up, and place on the same spots again. If you want the Multiball option, make it 2 balls. I think any more than 2 would get a bit much.

Trouble with this option is that I have found that it takes on average 45 min to score once in a 2-player, 3- and 4-player games seem to take around 2 hours before a TD. To do five TDs with four players could potentially take 34 hours (if each player scores 4 times each before the final TD is scored).