BBRC Hot List - 2003

Redfang · Post by **Redfang** » Thu May 22, 2003 11:29 am

I know that's what the LRB says, but it doesn't seem logical to me... The guy is frenzied, completely wild, he is not going to stop blocking just because some fans start cheering (which probably doesn't even happen yet before the second block is already taking place) he just hits on.

R

Da Scum · Post by **Da Scum** » Sun May 25, 2003 11:58 pm

Not sure if this one has come up yet.

Why can't accurate apply to ALL throwing actions, they already use a loop-hole so that a bomber can use them, but why couldn't it equally apply to throw a team-mate? Seems fair enough...

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon May 26, 2003 1:39 am

I can let galak handle that in full but trust me fling and gobbo teams would rule soon if their big (or is it gig

) guys can use accurate.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:19 am

Another topic just had me questioning something. Should the leader skill be reworded so Boneheads and Really Stupids that fail their roll can not enable it? Somehow when Bog the troll is seeing how far up his nose he can stick his finger i cant see him as an effective leader.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:42 am

I'd actually like them to stop BGs being able to use Leader & Trophy RRs at all. I think its contrary to what the LRB says anyway.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:28 pm

its already on the list

Indigo · Post by **Indigo** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:30 pm

might have been mentioned and discounted before, but why not have sure feet allow a re-roll for landing too?

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:43 pm

I dont have a problem with bg using the rr, i just dont think anyone else should be able to use a bg's leader roll while he is bh/rs.

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:19 pm

One more to add to the hot list if you push back a player following a normal block and the 3 squares that you can push the defender to are occupied, what happens if one of those 3 players has side step or stand firm?

Diagram:-

---A---
---B---
-CDE--

A blocks B, but C has side step (or stand firm), can the coach of player A choose to move player B into player C's square and push C back in turn? or does Stand Firm stop B being pushed into C (or allow C to move to any vacant square around him) or must the Coach A push back D or E?

My view is that both these skills are ignored since the skill description refers to being blocked (of course any other ruling could get very complex if there were lots of secondary pushes and lots of side step / stand firm players!).

Dave

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:41 pm

Dangerous Dave wrote:My view is that both these skills are ignored since the skill description refers to being blocked (of course any other ruling could get very complex if there were lots of secondary pushes and lots of side step / stand firm players!).

I'd actually say Side Step works on secondary pushes, but Stand Firm doesn't. Some clarification would be nice though.

Redfang · Post by **Redfang** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:01 pm

Well, the description of the Stand Firm trait clearl says the player is never pushed back "as the result of a block", while the description of the Side Step skill reads that the players' "coach may choose which square the player is moved to when he is pushed back". This descriptions says nothing about being blocked, so while it may not be prefectly clear, I do agree with Ian on this one.

noodle · Post by **noodle** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:41 pm

True but what SHOULD it be. I think Stand firm should make you imobile, regardless of the source

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:09 pm

Didn't they rule somewhere that secondary pushbacks were treated as the same as normal pushbacks? (Ie, treat B into C as if froma block)

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:36 pm

Darkson wrote:Didn't they rule somewhere that secondary pushbacks were treated as the same as normal pushbacks? (Ie, treat B into C as if froma block)

Pretty sure that was in the 2002 Review.

Yup, page 3 of the 2003 Annual.

Galak

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:46 pm

Okay clean-up check ... anything missing from the BBRC Hot List now that I just did an update?

http://www.midgardbb.com/BBRC_HotList2003.html

Dave ... I feel that the 2002 Rules Review answered your query by the way. You could choose to push the player into a Stand Firm player at which point the pushback sequence would end. Since the Rules Review said they are all treated as normal pushbacks, I see no reason why Stand Firm would not work on a secondary or more pushback.

Galak

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