New Race - Troglodytes

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 1:17 pm

I personally agree with someone else that blind should affect even big hand.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 1:18 pm

Besides ag 5 blind guys get hand offs on a 4+.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 1:33 pm

For a hand-off:

Catch AG 5 = 2+
Blind (-2)= 4+
Accurate (for hand off) (+1) = 3+

So a blind team that will fail a pick up and hand off 1 in 18 times, without taking TRR or skills into account. That's a lot better than a lot of my teams.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 1:39 pm

My mistake, but not better than any ag 3 team.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:43 pm

But most normal teams only have a 3+ to pick it up (excluding Elves and GR)

And they're meant to be blind

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:54 pm

I agree about removing the big hand.

But I dont understand this witch hunt against the AG5 runner.
Let's start with an existing player and change him into a troglodyte runner. The only one with leap is the wardancer, so let's start with him.
To change him into a troglodyte runner is like making these changes:
-ST, -Block, -1 to handle the ball (effective AG3), +1 to dodge and leap (AG5).
What's the problem here? I think the runner is very acceptable, and his price should be around 100k.

About the guy with big hand that wont have big hand anymore, what skills/stats should he have?

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:55 pm

Have you ever seen a gutter runner with +1AG, block and dauntless? If you had, you'd understand. Such a player can totally dominate an entire league. Your AG5 player only needs a single double (dauntless) to get this dreaded combo. That's way to good by any standard.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:07 am

No I've never seen such a gutterrunner, but I can imagine how strong it may be.
But does he dominate only because he can dodge easily and run fast? Or also because he has AG5 which makes him an excellent catcher and thrower?
A troglodyte runner would be a poor thrower and average catcher.

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:11 am

He's a laser guided missile, blitzing nearly anywhere on the board he feels like, dodging through tackle zonde and then, hitting with an even throw almost every time. Catching and throwing are icing on the cake.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:38 am

Heck, such a gutter runner rarely ever touches the ball at all!