Skavens

david13 · Post by **david13** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 4:30 pm

Hi all,i'm newby and i will start a leage 8-9 players,i want play with skavens:
what is the best skavens team ?
and I will need help with the skills can anybody help me?

thx for all.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 4:51 pm

One possible starting skaven team would be
2 Storm Vermin - no one i have ever heard of did not start with 2.
1 Thrower - U can have a gr be your thrower, but he would be st 2.
2 Gutter Runners - U could start with just 1, few start with more than 2.
7 Line Rats - U will still have to have a gr on the field during defense but its the best u can do.

This leaves u an apoth (definately need one rite off the bat), 2 rerolls, and ff of 7.

U could either leave off the extra line rat or apoth for some extra ff or both for ff and a reroll but i would not suggest both.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 5:44 pm

i start with:

2 sv
2 gr
1 th
6 lr
9 ff
3 rr

and then 20k left over which means you should get an apoth after game 1

Fronko · Post by **Fronko** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:26 am

Aye, Sean, U sure U no gangsta rappa?

Westcoast, man!

ravyn · Post by **ravyn** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 5:38 pm

i am running this team in my new league
2sv
2gr
1 thrower
5line
1 Rat Ogre
3 re
3 ff
get the apoth after 1st game

Flyin' Fling · Post by **Flyin' Fling** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 8:43 pm

quit giving the newbie bad advice, will you?

3ff and a rat ogre? sjeesj.

the RO might be a matter of personal opinion, but you need at least 7 FF and are better of with 9. certainly with skaven.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 8:54 pm

I agree, wait some time before purchasing the Rat Ogre. High FF, Apo and enough "normal" player to sustain 16 turns of heavy pounding from the opponent is of higher importance. I took my RO when one of my Linerats rolled a double and got "Leader". Without that safety net, a RO is disrupting your whole game as it becomes a harder problem of keeping him from producing TO as to score fast with the rest of your team.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:30 am

i believe the general school of thought is if you want a rat ogre take it early

there are less players with block/guard/+st about to take advantage of the wild animal trap and the sooner you have one the quicker they get block and pro which pretty much negates wild animal

so basically i don't take one at all ;]

BaSe · Post by **BaSe** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:29 am

I tookm a RO at the start of my league, and 3 games in hes finally got block. Ive won every game with at least 2 t/ds up and usually a few kills, and ive only lost one rat. My GR both have numerous skills. My only error has been to only start with two FF as I didn;t understand the rules regarding how important this is at the beggining, but im still doing ok.

I go for buying the RO right at the start

Scares the opposition.

El Condor · Post by **El Condor** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:27 pm

It's just a matter of choice of how do you want to play the game I think. Will you go for the more or less safe way: no Rat Ogre at the start and a huge FF, or would you go for the tricky one, A Rat Ogre and less, less FF and probablly no Apo to start with. It's just a matter of luck (and some sane insight in tactics) how your choices will turn out. I like the "tricky" choice, but then I always play for fun.

Concidering the above I'am going to play in the M@dHobbit Masacre Tournament in The Netherlands with the following taem, and I would appreciate your humble opinion about this team (the coach has 1.100.000 gp to his disposal to assemble his team):

1 Thrower
3 Gutter Runners
2 Storm Vermin
5 Linemen
1 rat Ogre
3 RR
5 FF
1 Apo

O yeah, I forgot to mention, everybody is healed miraculously (even the dead) after each match.

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:16 pm

I think you should get rid of the Apo and either get more FF and replace a lineman for an extra thrower, or take extra lineman instead. You don't really nead the apo if you're being healed at the end of the match.

El Condor · Post by **El Condor** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:40 pm

I like to see the Apo as some kind of super back-up in this scenario (player #12, who's able to cope with any task that is being asked from him, shall he be a Gutter Runner or a Storm Vermin, it doesn't matter he can be any one of them). Imagine, my Rat ogre or another player like a Storm Vermin gets killed or BH or whatever. With an Apo I can (with some luck) put him back on the field again straight away. I don't have to wait for a TD or a second half, "he" can be used immediately. That's the reason why I'll go for the Apo and not for an extra Lino or more FF.

Post by **Dave** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:45 pm

Looks OK El C..

won't help you against me though

El Condor · Post by **El Condor** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:50 pm

We all got our dreams Dave.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 4:43 pm

Drop to FF3 and replace a Linerat with the 2nd thrower.

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