Why does Nuffle suck??

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:34 am

I was just thinking (I know, I know, but I didn't hurt myself

) the whole debate around Nuffle is quite silly, there can only be 2 possible choices and one doesn't include the one endorsed by the RCN. Nuffle is supposed to be the god that presides over BB and all the bloody carnage is done for his greater glory, but he doesn't favour anyone (even those who praise him and ask for his blessing) he lets players get mained and killed for his own amusement. Now he is either what the NBA believes; an idiotic, isane, fickle god that delights in the suffering of others and screws everyone anytime he feels like it or; he is a god of Chaos. Yes, that's right, a god of Chaos. Before you go flying off the handle, just reread the bit above about what Nuffle is supposed to be, he enjoys bloody carnage and this is done for his glory and worship, but he delights in seeing everyone suffer equally, favouring no one (even those who praise him). As BB is a bloody and violent sport, and that BB is set in an alternate universe, Nuffle could be the alternate form of the WFB god Khorne, why not? Khorne is not mentioned in any of the official background fluff (so the compendiums and so called 4ed don't count), the only chaos god ever mentioned is Nurgle, so Nuffle could be Knorne. If you want to take this furthur, maybe you could say he's the god of chaos undivided, but he is still a chaos god. But being a chaos god would make him cool, and we all know that Nuffle isn't cool, so I guess we are left with the NBA's view, the RCN's idea of a benevolent god who brings victory to his faithful just doesn't even fit the fluff, these loonies are waayyyy out in left feild (playing by/with themselves).
So there you have it, Nuffle, the god of blood and carnage on the BB field, is either a chaos god (alternate form of Khorne) or he's just a sadistic idiot who deserves no worship.

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 am

I don't believe that praising Nuffle will bring me any better fortune. I do belive that Nuffle has a Devine Destiny for every BB coach. He gives you incredible bad luck, to help you learn to overcome amazing chalenges and take humiliating dfeats. But if you stick with him and belive in your divine destiny then your day will come. Nuffle will look down on the Great coach that he has helped mold and reward him with his moment at the Top your chance to really shine. So what i ask of Nuffle is that he teach me well and bring my time soon.

I think any fan of the game has a bloodlust and don't agree that Nuffle's is any greater then the average fan.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:50 am

Like I said, the RCN's view of Nuffle tends to be thier own and doesn't really fit the fluff. Devine Destiny?? You can make up whatever you want, but that doesn't make it believable or even plausable or fitting with the background fluff.

Lordred · Post by **Lordred** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:55 am

Dont wanna know how many players left the field in a box, before they ever knew their destiny

Dark Lord (retired) · Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:32 am

Actually the RCN doesn't even have a cohesive definition of their god amongst themselves. Ask 2 RCN members what Nuffle is and how they worship him and you'll get 2 completely different answers.

Noobies pay attention, the RCN is just a reactionary cult set up to oppose the NBA. They have no dogma, no real ranks or offices, and they are completely confused. The only thing they ever unify on is spamming us.
I think a better name for them would be the NBAAB (NBA Ankle Biters)

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:31 pm

They have no dogma

Trust in Nuffle, give him his due praise, and u wont be slapped down by him on a regular basis. Thats a paraphrase but it does a nice job of condensing it down. The RCN is more a conglomerate of congregations, like the Council of Baptists, we all have the same basic beliefs but different ways of expressing them.

no real ranks or offices

We do currently, also read the above, different sects give different titles.

and they are completely confused.

Not completely, but then im confused alot and that should not be held against the other RCN's

The only thing they ever unify on is spamming us.
I think a better name for them would be the NBAAB (NBA Ankle Biters)

This comment from the 3rd in a line of NBA's to comment on 1 RCN, at least we arent cowards that need to attack in a group. Not to mention i think 3 for 1 counts as more spam, we also did not inspire an anti topic about the RCN going into alot of topics yelling "Nuffle ____s!".

Note to Extreme, Devine?, *sigh*.

Arsiel · Post by **Arsiel** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:59 am

Dark Lord wrote:I think a better name for them would be the NBAAB (NBA Ankle Biters)

Ah but Darklord/Vyvian, such nice and shapely ankles they are

emperor2003 · Post by **emperor2003** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 6:58 pm

Torg wrote: the RCN's idea of a benevolent god who brings victory to his faithful just doesn't even fit the fluff, these loonies are waayyyy out in left feild (playing by/with themselves).

OOC = On the contrary most followers of Khorne believe the same way about him as the RCN thinks of Nuffle. Why else would anyone worship Khorne if he didnt bring them victory, if you are a god someone will worship you thinking it will help somehow

emperor2003 · Post by **emperor2003** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:02 pm

Nuffle is ALL of course he helps us win when we so deserve, for he is who we stomp the nonbelievers for. And stop that blasphemy about Him being the Huntsman of Souls, WHOSE NAME YOU SPOKE, BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!!

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:06 pm

Sorry, but you are so deluded, Nuffle doesn't help anyone win, even those who praise his name, he screws everyone equally (not that he's fairminded, just fickle and sadistic) whenever he feels like. And, yes I am a blasphemer, that's the whole point.

Dark Lord (retired) · Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:36 am

sean newboy wrote:The RCN is more a conglomerate of congregations, like the Council of Baptists, we all have the same basic beliefs but different ways of expressing them.

A dogma is an opinion held by all members. If you all have seperate opinions then you don't have one dogma. You have several different (and opposing dogmas.) Thus, what I said is true...The RCN has no dogma.

sean newboy wrote:
no real ranks or offices
We do currently, also read the above, different sects give different titles.

You all change your ranks up and down (and more like sideways) as you please. This is not a rank. A REAL rank, as I described it, is not self appointed or changed on a whim. Your titles are merely fluff and hold bearing on your status in the organization. Anyone can join you, declare himself such and such and poof!
So what I said is true, You have no REAL ranks.

sean newboy wrote:
and they are completely confused.
Not completely, but then im confused alot and that should not be held against the other RCN's

Well if you aren't confused then why do you all have seperate dogmas?

sean newboy wrote:
The only thing they ever unify on is spamming us.
I think a better name for them would be the NBAAB (NBA Ankle Biters)
This comment from the 3rd in a line of NBA's to comment on 1 RCN, at least we arent cowards that need to attack in a group. Not to mention i think 3 for 1 counts as more spam, we also did not inspire an anti topic about the RCN going into alot of topics yelling "Nuffle ____s!".

You can't spam your own threads, my son. Sorry but this was an NBA thread and so is the other thread you mention. The RCA posters are the ones spamming.

And oh yeah...as for your twist on the supposed dogma...

Why aren't the NBA members slapped down on a regular basis? Your dogma holds no bearing in reality.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:47 am

A dogma is an opinion held by all members

U mean like Nuffle is the god of bloodbowl, and we praise him? Seems like we all agree on that.

You all change your ranks up and down (and more like sideways) as you please.

Actually its as Nuffle pleases, we accept Nuffle in real time.

You can't spam your own threads, my son. Sorry but this was an NBA thread and so is the other thread you mention. The RCA posters are the ones spamming.

This IS an NBA thread, it was started by someone who WASNT at the time NBA and was not really an NBA thread at the time. If u wish to claim this as an NBA thread and no longer as a debate thread, u should have it moved from the newbie list and replaced to the ot list, where all the NBA/RCA threads should be.

Dark Lord (retired) · Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:56 am

sean newboy wrote:
A dogma is an opinion held by all members
U mean like Nuffle is the god of bloodbowl, and we praise him? Seems like we all agree on that.

So now it has changed from that last post? What happened to the whole "smacked down" stuff? Hmmn. Confused? Nah not you guys. And by the way, a dogma is usually more than just, "I believe in so and so and woship him." There's a bit more to it than that, usually. Like the "why", "how", "when" parts.

sean newboy wrote:
You all change your ranks up and down (and more like sideways) as you please.
Actually its as Nuffle pleases, we accept Nuffle in real time.

Where is Nuffle directing you? In the thread all I read are you guys deciding to do it. No credit is given to Nuffle at all...that could be seen as BLASPHEMY you know!

sean newboy wrote:
You can't spam your own threads, my son. Sorry but this was an NBA thread and so is the other thread you mention. The RCA posters are the ones spamming.
This IS an NBA thread, it was started by someone who WASNT at the time NBA and was not really an NBA thread at the time. If u wish to claim this as an NBA thread and no longer as a debate thread, u should have it moved from the newbie list and replaced to the ot list, where all the NBA/RCA threads should be.

Well actually the debate we are having was started by the NBA so my replies are techniacally not spam. And as you said, this is a debate thread so there is no spam as long as I contribute to the debate.

You RCN clowns are easy. Next?

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 4:14 pm

Foolish children.

Nuffle doesn't mind if you curse him, nor does he care if you "praise" him.

Nuffle does not create the suffering that is on the pitch, nor smite the players that do not return from it. He does not cause the training accidents to players that burn too brightly.

Nor does he favor the Indestructible mummy, or reward the Wood Elves for their excellence.

He was simply The Bringer. Through his prophet Roz-El he brought us the great sport of Bloodbowl, and through the action of playing the sport do we thank him for his kindness. Not unlike the good feeling you get when someone appreciates a gift to them, or another act of Charity. Nuffle is merely praised by enjoying his gift.

NBA or RCN, Reactionary Groups or Lunatics, Nuffle does not mind. Fans sing his praise with the ooo's and aaaa's of a good play. The excitement of a good riot. Even the crunching of bone and sinew say "Thank you, Nuffle."

You may take the pitch and give Nuffle a one finger salute, but he knows your true feelings, for you still take the pitch.

Asperon Thorn

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 9:31 pm

Main Entry: dog·ma
Pronunciation: 'dog-m&, 'däg-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural dogmas also dog·ma·ta /-m&-t&/
Etymology: Latin dogmat-, dogma, from Greek, from dokein to seem -- more at DECENT
Date: 1638
1 a : something held as an established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet b : a code of such tenets <pedagogical dogma> c : a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds
2 : a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church

As what i said counts as 1 (as far as RCN cares), and is a Doctrine, then i guess the RCN has a Dogma. Data courtesy of the Merriam Webster online Dictionary. The 3 questions u want to to know (how,why, when) dont really seem to be necessary parts of that. Why is always in any religon because our religious word (written or spoken) says so and we agree. How is not a doctine concerning faith or morals, neither is when. Your confusing Dogma with Custom.