New Trait - Relentless Assault

Circular_Logic · Post by **Circular_Logic** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:53 pm

I though about a new skill, while looking at my dices.. well, looking at my dices is alway a mistake, because you get sick of all those skulls, so I came up with this Idea:
Relentless Assault - Strenght or General Trait
A player with this Trait is trained to get the enemy down at all cost. If as a result of a block, a skull is rolled, BOTH players go down. However, as the player doesn´t really care about his health, make an injury roll straight away.

MixX · Post by **MixX** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:31 am

I'm not really sure I like this, as it could easily be horribly exploited.. I mean, a Halfling blocking an Ogre all of a sudden has a great chance of knocking him over? And with his AV a straight injury roll is sort of of no consequence! Just a quick question though: As it is a Trait, and HAS to be used. Does this mean that if you roll 2 dice, your choice, and roll a Clearhead and a Skull, you go down anyway?? (It didn't say if you use the skull on the block dice, just that if a skull is rolled..)

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:51 am

Interesting, but definatley a strength trait, then no mad halflings.

Circular_Logic · Post by **Circular_Logic** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:17 am

That´s why it should be a general trait or a strenght trait. This way it´s not available to stunties. It´s similar to dauntless.
Having to use it always adds alot of fun, but I would say that you are allowed to do an armorroll. So there are 2 possible versions:
1) Use it if you like, but then straight injury roll.
2) Whenever a skull shows up, you have to chose it, but you can alway make an armorroll (modified??), too.

Blammaham · Post by **Blammaham** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:06 pm

If I rolled doubles on an Ork Blitzer or Black Ork and was able to choose say, dodge or stand firm or any skill this is the last trait/ skill I would choose, I mean I might be on my own here but I would never use this especialy seeing as this would cause a turn over for my team. Sorry I don't see this as a viable skill let alone a trait. S.

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:10 pm

How would this work in relation to Block? Does it turn a skull into a both down result?

Chris

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:28 pm

Blammaham wrote:If I rolled doubles on an Ork Blitzer or Black Ork and was able to choose say, dodge or stand firm or any skill this is the last trait/ skill I would choose, I mean I might be on my own here but I would never use this especialy seeing as this would cause a turn over for my team. Sorry I don't see this as a viable skill let alone a trait. S.

I think you are looking at it all wrong. This would be a great General trait to give to a Suicidal Linerat, Linelf, or Norseman.

You can take a 2-die against block, sacrafice your player, but manage to take down that big guy. It would also be interesting to see the defending coach's decision, on a defenders choice block. Does he force his opponent to take a turnover, injury roll, and let his Big guy, or str 4 ball carrier go down? or does he allow a Linerat to push his players around, and continue his turn?

It would be a powerful combination with stripball making it an EXTREMELY interesting decision.

Asperon Thorn

Circular_Logic · Post by **Circular_Logic** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:18 pm

BlanchPrez wrote:How would this work in relation to Block? Does it turn a skull into a both down result?

No. It changes the effect of a rolled skull. I would find it extremly useful to bring down those blodging ballcarrier at all cost. And yes, it´s extremly intresting at those defender-choose-blocks.

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:30 pm

Okay, so as it ignores the block skill, I would say it makes a great Strength Trait. Available on doubles only, causes a turnover on your team, but might give you a big advantage.

Chris

Andreas of Loren · Post by **Andreas of Loren** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:39 pm

Hey you could use it with Hoshi Komi as it would be cool for him to commit Hari-Kari!!!!!!

mrinprophet · Post by **mrinprophet** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:16 pm

Andreas of Loren wrote:Hey you could use it with Hoshi Komi as it would be cool for him to commit Hari-Kari!!!!!!

Good one.

On the surface, without a lot of thought, I'd say it is too powerful. I'd be tempted to take this on most of my blitzers. Throw this on one with tackle and you have a great chance of sacking the ballcarrier if you can get to him.

I do like the idea of a secret weapon like this though, just for goblins. Reminds me of the MTG card Goblin Grenadiers. Funny stuff.

Circular_Logic · Post by **Circular_Logic** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:01 pm

Well, you get his ballcarrier, but at the cost of an injuryroll AND a turnover.

Blammaham · Post by **Blammaham** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:54 pm

I might be looking at this all wrong still, but I would take many other skills or traits for doubles over this trait. Granted I can see it being usefull in some situations I hate putting my guys on the ground for almost any reason. Just me but I think I'd rather a player who almost never falls over.S.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:17 pm

Totally agree with B. I for one would never take it coz of the turnover. Suicidal? Damn right you could lose a TD every time!

Circular_Logic · Post by **Circular_Logic** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:15 pm

Hmm... and I thought it more as overpowered. How often wanted my Undead team a possibility, to get down those blodging elves at all cost.
Or a skaven team, sacifying a linerat to get down this piling on/RSC-Mino, chasing your fragile oneturner... if you use it as your last action, you couldn´t care less about the Turnover.