Not using called actions

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:45 pm

Can a player decide not to totally go through a called action (such as Pass or Foul) after it has been declared? I've seen players call an action and after moving the player they choose not to proceed with the action...is that legal?

I understand that it uses that particular action for the turn...just was unsure about the use of this activity.

madhobbit · Post by **madhobbit** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:20 pm

Calling an action uses it up for this team turn. It's not mandatory to actually make the action.
For instance: calling a blitz where you start of with the block. The opponent doesn't go down, meaning you have to make a really nasty dodge. You can just stop after the block and don't move further. But this does mean you used up your blitz action for this turn.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:16 am

Right...but what if I were to call a Pass, move the passer, measure distances, and then decide not to throw the ball? It uses my Pass action for the turn, but is it still legal not to use the full action once declared?

madhobbit · Post by **madhobbit** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:26 am

Yes, it is.

Gorbad · Post by **Gorbad** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:27 am

Yes, except in the example you gave for Pass. It could be that you are forced to throw it anyway. But that is ONLY when the opponent has already used passblock.

LRB p. 36

The opposing coach is not allowed to change his mind about passing the ball after the player with this skill has made his move.

It could be argued that the same goes for Dump-Off, but ir does imply that yes, you would otherwise be allowed to change your mind.

'Ed Basha' · Post by **'Ed Basha'** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:20 am

even with pass, I am fairly sure you do not have to finish the pass. you have to see the quarterback, faking to one side...pump fake to another...sees no open receivers and tucks the ball under his arm and runs for it....all that happens is you've moved your player....same a a blitz.....you say the wood elf is making a blitz...you move him up to the troll slayer...it occurs to you that this dwarf will hand you your own eyeballs....you stop...dodge like heck out his tz and hoof it back bihind your treeman....you've used you blitz action and not thrown a block....no problem.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:57 am

The difference is between declaring a pass action and declaring the pass. So

"Pass Action"
move some squares
"Pass"
measure & nominate receiver.
Pass blockers move
Interceptions
Make pass
etc.

Once you've declared "Pass" you have to pass the ball. Before that you are not committed to it - so can choose not to pass the ball. You've still used up the "Pass Action" though.

'Ed Basha' · Post by **'Ed Basha'** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:50 am

well put....I was looking for a way to make it that clear. Same as once you've declared that you're going to hit the opposing player, you have to roll the dice.

Post by **Thadrin** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:58 am

Consider this example:
Player 1 wants to throw a pass. He declares a pass action and starts moving. He needs to make dodge to do so. The dodge requires the use of the reroll for the turn. The player decides that he doesn't want to risk a fumble, and so doesn't throw the pass. Nothing wrong at all.
That is the pass action for the turn, and he may not hand off or blitz.

Alesdair · Post by **Alesdair** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:33 am

Thadrin wrote:Consider this example:
Player 1 wants to throw a pass. He declares a pass action and starts moving. He needs to make dodge to do so. The dodge requires the use of the reroll for the turn. The player decides that he doesn't want to risk a fumble, and so doesn't throw the pass. Nothing wrong at all.
That is the pass action for the turn, and he may not hand off or blitz.

he may not hand off????

what the??

*goes to read the LRB*

well damn... our league is still playing DZ handoffs... i didn't even know they'd be changed...