what would you pay for sprues?

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:08 am

These are great ideas!!!

(sounds like you finally figured out the sprues issue!!!)

Khaine · Post by **Khaine** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:08 am

How about a generic fan sprue with a small large fan with fam finger etc. or female sprues?

Post by **Dave** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:43 am

I'd pay $5 without any hesitation.. and would probebely buy a fey other figs at the same time .. boy I love CC's

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:21 am

Phil, I would definitely buy multiples of these.

Hell i've bought everything else you've done

Seriously this is great, Shoulder pads and mutations have been the bane of my conversion ideas, and my ability to sculpt balls with green stuff, or get them into hands so they look realistic has been crap to say the least.

STOP POSTING, START SCULPTING

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:22 am

The fan sprue would be 4th important to me.

For mutations, i'll happily continue to buy the plastic Chaos mutation sprues from GW, they do the job very well, so low priority on that one.

GenoNBBL · Post by **GenoNBBL** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:04 am

Excellent idea Phil, I have a league of 17+ players that I'm sure would be interested in buying sprues. Hell, just me alone I'd buy plenty so I can convert some of the plastic WFB regiments into teams.

If you are considering this, what sort of timescale are we looking at for an initial release?

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:26 am

Been thinking about this...

I'm inclined to agree that a sprue with just helmets (of no specific race) would make conversion really easy.. whether elves, humans, amazons, norse etc etc..

how about a helmets sprue (3 medium size, 3 larger) and a hands sprue (including fists, catcher's gloves and hands holding footballs)..

I think that shoulder/thigh pads are not as important as there are quite a few options for these already....

and $5 a sprue would still not be too much for me...

Chairface · Post by **Chairface** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:13 pm

Norse wrote:and $5 a sprue would still not be too much for me...

Yeah, definitely. I thought that the $2.50 was maybe even TOO reasonable. $5.00 Sounds good too. And as many others have said I would buy multiples, and the members of my league probably would too.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:44 pm

Now see for me the weapon sprue would get the most use just because of it removing my need to keep hacking up other perfectly good figures.

So I'm willing to pay good money for that one.

I think the real question comes down to having a medium and large player sprue OR a head sprue and a hand sprue as suggested.

Galak

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:51 pm

what everyone needs to understand about this project is that there is an unfortunate and neccessary disparity between what would be "best" and what "i can do"... the key aspect of this, and every other one of my projects, is that i have to keep the number of molds to a bare and draconian minimum (why do you think i don't do lines of 15mm napoleonics, despite my passion for the hobby)... phigs is not a company, it's a hobby. unlike gw or even andy from heresey, i do not own a spincaster and mold-making equipment, everything i make gets shipped off to professional casters who make their living by charging me as much as they can get away with for the service they provide. my projects them become limited by the constraints not only of my extremely limited free time (i do have a day job, a wife, friends, and other hobbies afterall), but also by very tight financial considerations based on my very much higher production costs as opposed to people with their own production capabilities...

....so, the long and the short of it is, i need to get the most out of the fewest sprues possible... that means, i cannot do a line of 10 different sprues, because i can't afford ten production molds... i can afford three right now. so, the game becomes trying to figure out what combination of three sprues is the best investment for the most people... after long consideration, i decided that it would be sprues along the lines of what i proposed initially...

in a perfect world, toy soldiers would be my career, i'd have my own equipment, and i could churn out dozens of sprues and poses for every line i made, but i can't. so we do the best we can with what we have... for now, we get three sprues... buy enough of them, and i can afford to make more of them

and neo, these will still have the same limitation as the previous attempts, they won't always fit... but being cosmetic options rather than line requisites, a little limitation is not fatal...

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:22 pm

I think these would be great and have been needed for a long time. I'd pay $2.50-$5. It depends on the sprue. If I can use everything on it it's a $5 sprue. If I end up with 20 sprues that only have one piece snipped off, it's a $2.50 sprue. These sound closer to $5 than the $2.50. You'll sell a lot more at $2.50 than $5 though.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:25 pm

Hi Phil,

I understand your position totally, which is why I think sprues which were not mixed would sell better.. (I once bought a whole box of undead because I wanted some skulls to decorate bases with..)

Sprue 1 - hands, pointing, punching, catching and throwing (and throwing the bird too!)

Sprue 2 - mixed lot of football helmets, maybe not all identical in design, cool face masks and such..

Sprue 3 - weapons as outlined by Galak previously to avoid IP infringement..

Sprue 4 (if other sprues sell well) - fans and referee accessories..

I would buy four each of sprue 1 and 2 and probably one sprue 3 as well...

your other approach, to mix and match a bit, would have me asking people if they had spare helmets or fists... you get my drift??

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:13 am

(and throwing the bird too!)

from what i've seen of conversions online this one would probably be quite popular.

traveller · Post by **traveller** » Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:00 am

I think these would be great and have been needed for a long time. I'd pay $2.50-$5. It depends on the sprue. If I can use everything on it it's a $5 sprue.

... thanks , snots, to write, what i would write

My plan is, just to play with converted teams at league and keep the " original " unconverted minis for my collection... lets see, if these sprues help.

Traveller

JustGriff · Post by **JustGriff** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:39 pm

I think if we were being realistic GW would price he sprue alot higher and heres my reason why.

You would get parts for most teams in sprue so the price would cost more than £2, it would more likely be £6 or even £10, its the only way they would make a profit. Chargeing £2 just for one type of spure per team would not make much money. Probaly through mail order you might be able to order certain ones. But given BB's drop and the price of modles i my bet would be on a large all round sprue.

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