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dabananaman · Post by **dabananaman** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:08 am

hey guys, my leage is about to start(tomarrow) and i just had someone join last min which leaves us with an odd number of people... so, what should i do for a bye that will not let the team fall behind?

i was thinking 1-2 TDs on a players of your choice(cant be same one both times) and 1-2 randem MVPs... with 20-30 k winnings...

i really dont have much expirence in leages so i dont know if this would be too good or not... taking the max listed on all would mean your TR goes up by 5... which seems to be alittle less than most normal games...

what do you guys do?

thanks alot

Longshot · Post by **Longshot** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:16 am

for a long term forfeit like your problem.
The opponent wins 2/0 and the injured players can comeback after this break.
No money, no FF, no experience (they didnt play!)

dabananaman · Post by **dabananaman** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:12 am

but the problem is that then this team will fall behind the others.. we are only doing an 8 game season... so it would really suck(i have a bye my 3rd game) and would rather just play a normal game...

Longshot · Post by **Longshot** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:51 am

well, i know this is a problem for the players that should play against him.

And this is even worst for the league commish!

each year i have 1 or 2 guys that forfeit .

Getting news players each year too. but life is life, have to deal with this.

dabananaman · Post by **dabananaman** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:23 am

but its not people forfiting! its just what we have 13 people in the leage...

so the person had no choice at all in getting a bye... o well... i trust you more than i trust me... so thanks

Khaine · Post by **Khaine** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:14 am

One way to handle this is to play enough games so everyone plays everyone once, period. It's a bit weird with a 13 player league but it will work if your leagues up for an extra 5 games. that way every team misses one game and should be about even by the end of the season. I usually like to see everyone play everyone in league play anyway. Makes it a bit more ionteresting so you don't end up getting all bashy teams or all fruity elven ballet teams to play in your schedule but will get both

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dabananaman · Post by **dabananaman** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:59 pm

yah the problem though is most of our players are in college, and go home for the holladay.. also noone wants to play games during finals eather....

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:40 pm

Any possibility someone could play a 2nd team? Or how about running the 14th team as a league team, and have whichever coach is spare that week play it?

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:32 am

Just redo the schedule so that everyone has at least one bye week. That means that some weeks 3 teams will have a bye.

A bye week will allow all MNG's to come back, but nothing else changes.

Asperon Thorn

Haar · Post by **Haar** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:11 pm

yeah, what they said. Make the schedule so that everyone has the same number of bye weeks, and make a bye week just make MNG injuries heal. No problem there.

If you have trouble getting your head around it, try thinking of the bye week as another team. So each week someone will be playing the team named BYE.

For help scheduling a round-robin season (where everyone plays everyone once), go to http://www.nrich.maths.org.uk/mathsf/jo ... ul02/art3/

But be warned, if you use that algorithm, there's a lot of order in the schedule. Specifically, if team A played team B last week, and now you play team B (this week), then this week team A will be playing team C, who will be your next opponent.

Put more succinctly, each of your opponents will have faced the same team the week before facing you (for the most part, this shifts around near the bye week). This can be good (if there's some dwarfs first, then you end up facing a lot of weakened team) or bad (gobline first).

So I suggest that if you use that round-robin algorithm you use it to get the pairings, but then randomize the weeks. So make week 1 shift to week 5, etc. then you have a much more random RR distribution.

bleh.

Asmodan · Post by **Asmodan** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:23 pm

Well in the local league i play in we had the same problem (we are 9 people)
So what we did was make the schedule with 10 teams and counted a game against the non-existing 10th team as a forfeit by that 10th team which means you get 2 MVP´s and 30k in addition to all MNG players healed. (this is houserules)
IMHO this works quite good.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:05 pm

Unless you get the bye 1st week

neverdodge · Post by **neverdodge** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:53 pm

When starting my league, i was really inexperimented (not that i m experimented yet

) and i wanted the things to be fair for each team, meaning same number of games played, no bye etc etc

Now with a little more experience, i think one less game played isn t that much .. So much thing could happen in a game, having one less played isnt always a big handicap, neither a nig advantage .

For example, if things goes good, you could just win 6-0 making 4 cas, ending the game with more than 30 spp, and 90.000 winning. On the other side, you can get 3 death, gain 0 spp, and 30k winning . So the difference between thos two teams on week 2 will be even more than if the second team was bye for example .

So i think you can just play with a bye, and like everyone says, try to make all the teams having the same number of bye, that will be fair enough.

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