Possible streamlining of skill roll.

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:44 pm

Why not:

Roll Skill   Age if player
     Type    is at least:
-----------------------------
2    Reg.     Experienced 
3    Reg.     Experienced 
4    Reg.     Veteran
5    Reg.     Emerging Star
6    Reg.     Star Player
7    Any      Super-Star
8    Trait    Mega-Star
9    Trait    Legend
10   +1 MA
11   +1 AG
12   +1 ST

The only reason I can think of is that Super-Stars, Mega-Stars, and Legends might age and get any skill or trait... to which I ask, so what?

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:45 pm

Deathwing wrote:Why streamline?

Some people "forget" to age.

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:53 pm

and some people "forget" to mark down niggling injuries and mng's.... it's not going to get better with a new chart... if the schmuck won't write stuff down, they won't write stuff down, ya know...

i'm not saying you couldn't combine the two, since clearly you can... just saying that people who quietly forget to take their losses aren't going to change with a new table...

personally, i like the aging roll seperate, more suspenseful...

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:06 pm

Ick!

That's about all I have to say to this whole concept.

I like the current skill roll table ... I have zero issue with the seperate aging rolls ... and I kinda like the ability to take a trait on a 7.

Do not get rid of doubles and the current table. I'd rather have no change at all then this beast.

Galak

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:13 pm

Of course I have the advantage of a league where you cannot "forget" to age.

Galak

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:23 pm

galak needs to get back onto the tabletop... but then, so do all of us...

Zy-Nox · Post by **Zy-Nox** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:26 pm

If you want to include ageing in this table why not just say if you roll a double you age.
I dont know if this will increase/decrease the chances of ageing but who knows.
However I'm perfectly happy with the current system and dont see the need for change.

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:57 pm

I'm with Galak on this.

Trying to mix 2 tables together is like adding sugar to beer. This sounds very much like the "ejected on a double" rule in 3E which I believe most people wanted out.

If you roll a double why should you age? This means that players with traits are going to retire quickly.

Skill rolls and ageing are different. There is no need to bring them together. It hardly saves any time. Why make a change when none is needed. I have agreed (in an earlier post) that if it was felt that there should be more traits in the game, then I'm happy to play-test a trait on a skill roll of 7 or a 9 or whatever........ but.... let's not try to simplify things too much by adding separate rolls together.

Dave

PS I can see that the next prospective table published is going to be a combined armour and injury table

Roll a triple player dies....... etc etc

PPS The next table will be one where you roll 58 dice and look up the match result on a ginormous table and update your roster and SPPs with a 3-1 win with a 4-2 casualty score......

(sorry about this last one but I couldn't resist!)... hang on.... if we make it a 62 dice table we could add the ageing effects into the roll too!

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:59 pm

Dangerous Dave wrote:I'm with Galak on this.

PPS The next table will be one where you roll 58 dice and look up the match result on a ginormous table and update your roster and SPPs with a 3-1 win with a 4-2 casualty score...... (sorry about this last one but I couldn't resist!)... hang on.... if we make it a 62 dice table we could add the ageing effects into the roll too!

bloodbowl will be supported by avalon hill?

Zy-Nox · Post by **Zy-Nox** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:59 pm

Dangerous Dave wrote:like adding sugar to beer.
!

Lager top anyone

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 8:13 pm

You could do something like

2-4 Any skill or trait
5 Normal skill or trait
6-9 Normal Skill
10 +MA or normal skill
11 +AG or normal skill
12 +ST or normal skill

The odds of a double are the same, the odds of a trait slightly better (10/36 from 6/36) and no more doubles.

Ian

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 8:43 pm

I like the dearth of traits in 2k1. I don't want more Stand Firm/Guard Longbeards thankyou. Or Frenzied Beastmen. Or Nerves of Steel Welf catchers. Or every Thrower with any career longevity with Strong Arm. Or VLL Gutter Runners.

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 9:31 pm

Who ever said that Lager was beer! and if you need to add lemonade to it, doesn't that say something!

Give me a pint of Ruddles, Tiger, Adnams, Dogbolter (any Firkin fans on the Board?) or Abbot etc etc..... (or a bottle of nice red to go with the rare steak!... don't you just love the red juice oozing out of the steak and soaking into those chips! Yum!).

Dave

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 10:04 pm

Just add the +1 av as an option and have a seperate aging roll.

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 11:19 pm

Dangerous Dave wrote:Who ever said that Lager was beer! and if you need to add lemonade to it, doesn't that say something!

Give me a pint of Ruddles, Tiger, Adnams, Dogbolter...

Ah, Dogbolter... my dad used to make this from a kit. Also DoubleBolster, which was nearly leathal.