Chaos Dwarf TR110 Tournament Selection

Slinky78 · Post by **Slinky78** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:18 am

Thought I'd settled on a line-up, but now wondering on the details, so thought I'd throw it to the floor.
Usual tournament rules, 1.1million, but with random skill distribution after games (2 for a win, 1 for draw/loss).
Having never used Chaos Dwarves, which do people prefer, and why?

Option A
5 Dwarves, 2 Centaurs, 4 Hobgoblins, Troll, Apoth, 3 RR, 3FF

Option B
6 Dwarves, 2 Centaurs, 5 Hobgoblins, 4 RR, 2 FF

Option C
As per B but swap a re-roll for an apoth

Option D
As per A, but swap the apoth for an extra Hobgoblin and +1 FF

Riots and pitch invasions are D3, so FF isn't too important.
Not sure about the apoth, with two 130k players I'm tempted, although they're av9 - but maybe more use than a thirteenth player and 1ff.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:23 am

The troll is interesting, as we've got random skills you can't give him block early on, so there is a good chance he'll go the whole tournament without getting a skill. On the other hand he might get 2. Are you prepared for that? However you will be up against a lot of strength so you may need him.

Also the lack of skill choice means you can't concentrate on skilling up the BCs (or even the CDs) so I'd be very tempted by taking B.

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:55 am

Definitely B.

grotemuis · Post by **grotemuis** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:21 pm

A, the troll scares a lot of people. it will take some pressure of your other players

Slinky78 · Post by **Slinky78** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:30 pm

Must admit my personal preference was originally A, but see the merits of B - hence the dilemma. The troll is quite likely to not actually do anything and lack of block can be a hinderance - but is nice as a counter to other st 4's or big guys dominating the centre of the field. Hmmm, all these decisions...

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:12 pm

My math skills are poor early in the morning, but aren't both teams over 110 k?

I'm costing the first roster out at 1,140,000 and the second at 1,150,000.

Slinky78 · Post by **Slinky78** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:52 pm

Don't think so Skummy, look like 110 to me.

a) 35+26+16+10+5+15+3 =110

b) 42+26+20+20+2=110

Zy-Nox · Post by **Zy-Nox** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:24 pm

B.

the troll will probably stand around doing jack when you need it anyway

Sharky2k · Post by **Sharky2k** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:09 pm

b sounds nice.
apo i never use on tourney and also troll hmmm seems a bit gambling

mtn_bike · Post by **mtn_bike** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:27 pm

I would go with B. Though the Troll is intimidating you will need a player by his side most of the time. That ties up 2 of your players. To me that is not worth it. Plus you'll need the RR's to pick up the ball with your BC's. Best blitzing ball carriers ever.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:34 am

All TR110 tournaments i went to, i used the following lineup:

2 BC, 6 CD, 4 HG, 1 Troll, 3 RR, 1 FF

Only alternative would be your roster A) against which i lost the final at RDV2003. The apo is great if a BC gets injured, but this usually only happens on a foul, meaning not too often, esp. if you have a couple of DPs, then your opponent will be careful to remove the refs eye from you.

Random skills will mean you need some luck to get skills to the BCs (Break Tackle first, not Block). Many skills will go to the CDs that usually don't get many skills in a chose-a-skill environment. At t5:2 we did the same and i gave Mighty Blow as every first skill on a CD, guard on a second. Pretty much cleared the pitch in the last games.

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:40 pm

Slinky78 wrote:Don't think so Skummy, look like 110 to me.

a) 35+26+16+10+5+15+3 =110

b) 42+26+20+20+2=110

That's right Hobgobs are 40k...

I'd go with roster A. You've got 12 men, an apoth and a big guy. The troll and the CD's are just there to tie up opposing players, and 5 ST mighty blow is always going to be useful in a good coach's hands.

Slinky78 · Post by **Slinky78** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:53 am

Like that version of it Tim - and how can I ignore advice from the world no. 1!

If I had the experience/skill to match I'd be laughing - just have to hope those pbems were enough. We'll see how they get on tomorrow...

Slinky78 · Post by **Slinky78** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:00 pm

Took the 'Tim mark1 Roster' worked pretty well, 4th when I expected to be about 30th. I'll write up some form of hopefully vaguely useful opinion on how they performed once I get some sleep...

leblanc13 · Post by **leblanc13** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:28 am

I would go with option E.

Use option B but remove on RR and increase your fan factor. In a long league the extra FF really does help. The more games you play the better the high FF is.