Slowing down play...A valid tactic.

leblanc13 · Post by **leblanc13** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:04 am

Why is it that intensionally moving the ball up the field slowly in order to deny your opponent time to score is considered beardy?

I think that this is a valid tactic for teams like dwarves that have a harder time scoring than elves do.

I think that it is required in some instances that you hold on to the ball as long as possible. The team with the longest time of possession usually holds the advantage in American Football.

I just can't understand why some coaches see slowing down the game as a beardy tactic when it is almost necessary for teams like the dwarves and orcs that don't have the speed of the more agile teams.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:22 am

I don't think its beardy. As you say for some teams its all they can do.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:57 am

Please do a search for "stalling" and you'll eventually find several pages long discussion about that issue.

If it's beardy depends how you'd do it: moving slowly downpitch seems ok, whereas stopping 3 squares before your opponents Endzone, protecting the ball and not scoring for 5 turns is considered "beardy" I guess...

leblanc13 · Post by **leblanc13** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:17 am

I guess that I play with people that are confused over the issue. I don't stall. I just play a slow grinding game. I don't wait by the endzone to score.

Thanks for the clarification.

I bring this to their attention.

Post by **Dave** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:49 pm

waiting in front of the EZ and meanwhile killing off the three remaining players your opponent has is beardy . the rest just valid tactic

Post by **Dave** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:50 pm

waiting in front of the EZ and meanwhile killing off the three remaining players your opponent has is beardy . the rest just valid tactic

Post by **Dave** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:50 pm

waiting in front of the EZ and meanwhile killing off the three remaining players your opponent has is beardy . the rest just valid tactic

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:22 pm

I think Dave needs a title, I got a good one

"The Triple Poster"

Andy-K · Post by **Andy-K** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:34 pm

Moving slowly is fine, hard for teams like dwarves to move fast.

Stopping at the td line and just waiting for the half to end is not.

Have had games like that where the opponent stopped, waited 4-5 turns for turn 8 to come and in the meantime let his team beat mine up as good as they could. No fun games to play at all.

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:36 am

A slow, bashy team would be crazy to give up the ball with 2 or more turns left and give the opponent a chance to get back in the game.

If the defence doesn't pressure me for the score, then they've let me dictate the pace of the game. To put this is terms that an agility coach will understand, this is the bashy equivilant of not covering downfield recievers. If you can't or won't do it, then you shouldn't complain when it bites you in the ass.

Post by **Dave** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:19 am

Xtreme wrote:I think Dave needs a title, I got a good one

"The Triple Poster"

thanks mate .. you're welcome ..

If I press 'submit' nothing happens, so I try again, again, and with some luck I have 3 posts about 10 minutes later ..

grrrrr

TiMuN · Post by **TiMuN** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:43 am

What Dave said. (three times)
Stalling while obliterating the other team is no fun at all, stalling to wait for a better chance is prefectly valid, but gives your opponent one more chance to blitz your ball carrier.

I use to observe one non-writen rule with my chaos dwarves and dwarves. If i can score in any given start of a turn, i do, if it involves no die rolling or easy ones ... specially if it is pbembb ...

Steel-Eagle · Post by **Steel-Eagle** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:59 am

Of course slowing down play is a valid tactic, and was mentioned some teams have no choice than to adapt to this style of play, it is stalling that is clearly beardy/cheesy...

MadLordAnarchy · Post by **MadLordAnarchy** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:08 am

Stalling

.

I wish I could stall more but either my opponents are not very good so I score so I can score again or my opponents are good so I can't stall at all as they'll tackle my ball carrier.

Slinky78 · Post by **Slinky78** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:00 am

I totally disagree that stopping in from of the ez is beardy. If your defence is incapable of punishing me for standing around and not bothering to score then you utterly deserve it. If you can't apply enough pressure to make the staller consider running in the ball, then why should he do so and offer you a chance to score. That's like him being upset that you don't field a runner on defence because he can't block him. You have to play to your strengths, and giving faster teams time to score is generally not clever. It might annoy me if someone did it to me, but only from a game tactical perspective, I'd not consider it unsporting.