Cage-breaking in the new world

JJB · Post by **JJB** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:10 pm

After from preventing a cage from forming in the first place, the second most important element against cages is psychological pressure...
Unless I am strictly speaking really unlucky, I have now been able to handle all types of cages with wood elves and chaos. Of course I'm sounding pompous, but I must admit it took me a good 4 years of trial and error...

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:43 pm

Wood Elves and Chaos are actually two of the better cage breaking teams. WE's have the wardancer, and Chaos can always get a 2 die blitz going.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:16 pm

JJB wrote:After from preventing a cage from forming in the first place, the second most important element against cages is psychological pressure...

I could not agree more. The best way to break a cage is to panic your opponent into making a mistake. Let him do the work for you!

noodle · Post by **noodle** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:02 am

Ah, thats whats going wrong in our league. Too many unflappable cage players....

And interestingly, I don't often lose to cage tactics, but draw one hell of a lot!

I suspect its down to the type of players we have now (I almost typed platypus there!

). The flamboyant ones have departed...

Munkey · Post by **Munkey** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:01 pm

You have platypus in your league

We have a good mix of flamboyant and solid players in our league. The Wood Elves seem to be doing a good job at cage breaking at the moment. Maybe we need some players from your league to show us how to cage properly.

duff · Post by **duff** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:08 am

Gotta say, the one time I had a serious cage rolling with my human team aganist a very good Woodelf team with a very (by our standeds) good and lucky coach, I panicced when his two (3rd ed) treemen got too close and Icarried out my switch to the other side badly - and that team dosn't need much of an "in" to take the ball off you and score!

Grod · Post by **Grod** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:17 am

Well one of the main points that was made was that it is difficult to attack a cage when the corners have high strength players. The black orcs mentioned only move 4. It is very unusual for such players to keep up with the cage. Put a bit of pressure on the cage, and you will soon see the cage advancing, but with those black orcs replaced by linemen or blitzers...

Another idea to slow cages is to place the majority of your players in the centre of the field, but directly in front of the cage. If the cage wants to progress it must roll towards one of the sidelines. Once a cage is near a sideline, swamp it and it very quickly ceases to go anywhere at all. Always leave the spare space on the closest sideline.

It takes a lot of patience to play a careful cage, so it is not surprising that it can require an equal amount of patience to break down the cage defences.

Finally, it is ridiculously easy for elves/skaven to score in 2 and even 1 turn, so it would be unfair if the game was implemented in such a way that slow teams werent even able to hang on to the ball.