BloodBowl 40K

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 7:56 pm

I think they would have to be seperate. Though the core rules would be the same, there would have to be new rules for the various teams. Space marines with powerfists, can you imagine them taking on a team of woodies?

Post by **Thadrin** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 8:41 pm

Darkson wrote:I remember the sillyness in 2nd ed., and bloody good fun it was too. I even came up with rules for Fimir, Slann and other WFB races taht weren't in the game, and best of all Maines!

I'd like to see a game based in the 40K universe. I mean, BB is "based" in the WFB world only loosely (can you imagine the Chaos All-stars turning up for a game in Middenheim? The crowd would be packed with Witch Hunters!), so why not a game "loosely" based in the future? I can just imagine it - Tau passing game vs. 'Nids in-your-face blitzing sytle.

However, I'd say keep the 2 games completely seperate, and even make the 40K game a new one (don't ask me what, my designing skills aren't very good).

Slann WERE in 2nd ed officially you know....
I still think we should have a "Random event table" and bring back the old "double 1s on an armour roll" rule frmo 2nd ed. and I'll keep going on about this at every oppurtunity because it will bring back exactly the whackiness people want! (hmmm....

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I like the Tau accuracy/Nid blitzing/ Ork WAAARGHiness/ Eldar precision idea....but really can't be bothered. The necromunda gang models do look convertible (new ones on the way too....) and the idea of a blood bowl type game in the underhive is at least VAGUELY concievable in 40K fluff.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 10:04 pm

I know Slann were in 2nd ed. My fault, I confused myself, I meant I had rules for Lizardmen (old-style), also Troglodytes.

BB in the Underhive, now there's an idea.

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 10:27 pm

Oh dear. Please get a grip. I can see a Necromunda variant, but Space Marines playing BB? And Tyrannids? Against each other?
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Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 11:04 pm

Why can't you see Marines playing 'Nids? Is it any more unrealistic than say an Empire team willingly playing host to a Chaos team?

As long as the rules are balanced were's the problem?

I saw on one site that 1 team was made up of Marines, using the Orc roster. Maybe this is a way forward, though I'd like to see new team rosters.

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 1:48 am

Deathwing wrote:

I can see a Necromunda variant, but Space Marines playing BB? And Tyrannids? Against each other?

Yeah what's the prob? It's much more realistic to have a horde of zombies and fetching werewolves captained by Frankenstein trying to score touchdowns at some Lizardman temple where the home team is coached by a fat anthropomorphic frog.

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:17 am

Yeah..right.
We all know that we're talking about little metal men in a fantasy scenario...but BB has a history all of it's own. No, there's no freakin' cabalvision in the WHFB universe, and there's no way that humans would line up against Chaos in a sporting contest..but that doesn't mean that anything goes.
I'm in the camp that says BB fluff is unique, and didn't like the re-naming of position players to tie in with the current WHFB versions with the release of 3e...
A tyrannid with a football helmet on that gets sent off for a foul? Oh man...let's not go there!
Next thing you know some lunatic will come up with some sort of Puggy Baconbreath/Eldar Warwalker hybrid...oh wait..

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:52 am

OK then, so WAY Y Y Y in the future, like say 40,000 years ± a few thousand, someone discovers an ancient BloodBowl pitch and, as before, the game is reborn, this time in the 40k universe. . .

BloodBowl matches might even be used as proxy battles for some of the big, world spanning events that take place in that time. . .

Perhaps there is a stadium where, because of great magic or high technology, teams from 40K meet and battle teams from the past. . .

Maybe the teams can only meet in this stadium, the rest of the season they play in their respective leagues, or maybe, there is a crosstime league. . .

It's about the fun, it's a game after all. . .

Thom. . .

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 3:22 am

Thom wrote:OK then, so WAY Y Y Y in the future, like say 40,000 years ± a few thousand, someone discovers an ancient BloodBowl pitch and, as before, the game is reborn, this time in the 40k universe. . .

BloodBowl matches might even be used as proxy battles for some of the big, world spanning events that take place in that time. . .

Perhaps there is a stadium where, because of great magic or high technology, teams from 40K meet and battle teams from the past. . .

Maybe the teams can only meet in this stadium, the rest of the season they play in their respective leagues, or maybe, there is a crosstime league. . .

It's about the fun, it's a game after all. . .

Thom. . .

Yeah...but it's a fun game as it stands....
Hey, more teams=more fun, right? Let's come up with some balanced Banana Splits and Muppets rosters..oh wait..there's no GW connection there....hang on...let's have some rules for Dark Future Operative and Renegade teams, and while we're at it I want some Manowar Narwhal BB stats...

Oh man...without intending to be offensive here..you want Terminators and Genestealers?..PLAY FREAKIN' SPACE HULK!!!!!

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 5:12 am

Obviously there are gonna be some things that simply can't be made to work in BloodBowl, playtesting can weed them out. As for the Muppets & Banana Splits, well, why not?

Thom. . .

gallowin · Post by **gallowin** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 5:31 am

This all sounds like the beginnings of an article for the next BB magazine.

I know nothing about 40K but I don't see why someone couldn't create an adaption to the existing 40K rosters and create a BB for the teams of the future. Although you might want to rule no blasters or mass destruction weapons on the field.

If they want to do combat they should go play 40K.

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:07 am

What? No thermal detonators?

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:17 am

Thadrin wrote:I like the Tau accuracy/Nid blitzing/ Ork WAAARGHiness/ Eldar precision idea....but really can't be bothered. The necromunda gang models do look convertible (new ones on the way too....) and the idea of a blood bowl type game in the underhive is at least VAGUELY concievable in 40K fluff.

Tau?
Nah... don't bother telling me. My wh40k universe is frozen to the time of the real Imperial Guard where a planet was stripped of every able man, dressed in the Codex Grey uniforms, given a lasgun, then thrown, a billion soldiers at a time, to fight chaos in some planet far away. And when the fighting is over, Space Marines are scrambled to kill the surviving soldiers of the Imperial Guard. That was grim future, I say.

And there's no need to bring back Squats - they exist to me even now

Post by **Thadrin** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 11:51 am

ah...the days of Virus grenades, vortex bombs, and Dark Angels wearing Black.

You are NOT alone.

Piepgrass · Post by **Piepgrass** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 12:03 pm

I miss those days.

Poul

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