Oh god the rules are a mess again!

Mordredd · Post by **Mordredd** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:53 pm

The rules have to be available to everyone before the event, even those without net access. So it is not necessarily "daft in the extreme" to be using LRB 3 instead of LRB 4.

Have they published the 2004 RR yet? (I'm assuming that they have published the 2003 RR in hard copy somewhere.)

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:36 pm

Erm, don't think so, the RR03 was never in the Annual, and I can't recall it in a BB Mag.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:45 pm

Didn't the 2003 RR go in BB/Fanatic Mag?

Otherwise they haven't published anything since the '03 annual.

TLAXTLAN CARNISAURS · Post by **TLAXTLAN CARNISAURS** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:41 pm

2004 rr was made official on nov 24th 2004 on the bb website,.

kithor2002 · Post by **kithor2002** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:26 pm

So Big guys will have general access and all the old kickoff events will be used(e.g. Blitz or Pitch invasion) ???:o

Indigo · Post by **Indigo** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:18 am

Mordredd wrote:The rules have to be available to everyone before the event, even those without net access. So it is not necessarily "daft in the extreme" to be using LRB 3 instead of LRB 4.

I doubt it - remember how Fanatic are downsizing to focus on their "online support". They know where the vast majority of their gamers get the rules for BB.

I mailed Brian a long time ago about this issue and the star players and he said he is sorting it out. It's no use mailing Fanatic at all - this is all purely GW events so all you will get back from them will be an "it's not our fault" email.

I don't think any of the new teams are likely to be banned or anything, don't worry... Yes they should have given the NAF the rules for approval first but at least they will correct the mistake. It's not the end of the world

Zy-Nox · Post by **Zy-Nox** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:45 am

time for me to get painting those ogres then

olaf · Post by **olaf** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:19 pm

Indigo wrote:
Mordredd wrote:The rules have to be available to everyone before the event, even those without net access. So it is not necessarily "daft in the extreme" to be using LRB 3 instead of LRB 4.
I doubt it - remember how Fanatic are downsizing to focus on their "online support". They know where the vast majority of their gamers get the rules for BB.

I mailed Brian a long time ago about this issue and the star players and he said he is sorting it out. It's no use mailing Fanatic at all - this is all purely GW events so all you will get back from them will be an "it's not our fault" email.

I don't think any of the new teams are likely to be banned or anything, don't worry... Yes they should have given the NAF the rules for approval first but at least they will correct the mistake. It's not the end of the world

maybe we could discuss several hours with the refs during the tournament

kithor2002 · Post by **kithor2002** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:30 pm

Zy-Nox wrote:time for me to get painting those ogres then

I thought you will play WE anyway

Hamster · Post by **Hamster** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:23 pm

Just posted on the Games Workshop site, it still doesn't specifically mention the Pro Elf, Necromantic and Khemri teams:-

Blood Bowl and Epic Tournaments Update - 2/15/2005

Weâ€™ve received a number of emails asking us which teams or armies may be used in the Blood Bowl and Epic tournaments being held at Warhammer World later this year. Unfortunately we failed to update the rules from those that were used for last year's tournaments, an embarrassing mistake for which I apologise unreservedly. Systems have now been put in place to make sure that similar mistakes canâ€™t happen again in future.

What the rules packs should say is that players can use any officially published Blood Bowl teams or Epic armies. In addition, the official errata and FAQs that can be found on the Blood Bowl and Epic websites do apply in this yearâ€™s tournaments.

For Blood Bowl this means that you can use the following teams: Human, Orc, Dwarf, High Elf, Skaven, Dark Elf, Chaos, Chaos Dwarf, Undead, Goblin, Halfling, Wood Elf, Norse, Lizardmen, Amazon, and Ogres & Vampires. Please note that the Ogres and Vampires were missed out of the list in the rules pack, but will be allowed at the tournament.

In addition, the errata and FAQ from the 2004 Rules Review will apply in this years Blood Bowl.

For Epic this means you may use the following army lists: Codex Astartes, Steel Legion, Ghazgkhull Mag Uruk Thrakaâ€™s War Horde, Speed Freaks, White Scars, Biel-Tan Eldar Craftworld, Baran Siegemasters & Warlord Snagga Snaggaâ€™s Feral Ork Horde. The Speed Freak and White Scare lists can be found in the New Rules section of the Epic website. The Biel-Tan, Siegemaster and Feral Ork lists are currently in the Swordwind files that can be found in the Experimental Rules section of the Epic website. Note that although the last three lists are currently experimental, by the time of the tournament Swordwind will have been published and the army lists contained in it will be â€˜tournament legalâ€™. Last but not least, the Errata & FAQ from the Epic website will apply at the tournament.

My aplogies, once again, for the confusion over the armies and rules to be used at this years Blood Bowl and Epic tournaments. If you have any further questions about the events then please donâ€™t hesitate to email me with them at jervis@games-workshop.co.uk.

Jervis Johnson
Head Fanatic

dwarfcoach · Post by **dwarfcoach** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:25 pm

Sorted.

Roll on Rock City...

Torpor · Post by **Torpor** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:33 pm

Looks good...

Cannot wait for him to try again though...

Then again, it normally takes a couple of rounds for GW to sort something out.

btw- Jervis is missing Rotters as well

Geggster · Post by **Geggster** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:52 pm

All sorted. All Official Teams allowed. All knickers can now be untwisted.

Although, maybe star player use also needs clarification. You know, double as posted or RR04 costings. My thoughts would be the latter, but best to get confirmation if you want to use them.

Emberbreeze · Post by **Emberbreeze** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:56 pm

Further to todayâ€™s earlier Blog entry, please note that the following teams from the 2003 Rules Review may be used in the Blood Bowl tournament: Khemri, Nurgles Rotters, Necromantic, & (Pro) Elf. The rules for these teams can be found in the 2003 Rules Review

Jervis Johnson
Head Fanatic

guess JJ had a brain fart, but he fixed it quickly

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:10 pm

Stars now clarified:

Jervis wrote:And postively the last one, I promise : ) Further to the last two entries in the Blog, please note that the cost of Star Players will not be doubled at this year's Blood Bowl. Instead you should use the new 'One-Off' match fee listed for the Star Player in the 2004 Rules Review.