Human Blocker

[Tinkywinky]

It's a fair point, but I'm not sure if any other player in the current rules has an extra cost added to them, just because they are useful. Anyone know if there is?

Orc throwers and dwarf runners are both worse versions of a human thrower and cost the same or more.

HE and DE throwers have different costs too despite being identical as DE throwers are deemed more valuable to the team (without catchers the pass reroll becomes more important).

[duff]

On the topic of substituting players and adding human blockers -
A change to add variety to Human Teams that I've been looking at is:

1-12 Linemen
0-2 Throwers
0-2 Catchers
0-2 Blitzers
0-2 Specials
Extra 0-2 Catchers OR Blitzers

Possible specials
1 Any position from above. This option can’t be used to get more than 4 catchers or blitzers, but could give a standard human team of 4 of each, or could give 4 throwers if that was what you wanted.
2 Half elves 6 3 3 8 dodge. Gen Agility 70K
3 Runners 7 3 3 8, dodge, sure hands. Gen 90K
4 Blockers 5 3 3 9 Block Stand firm. Gen Str 80K
5 Beserker 6 3 3 7 Block. Frenzy, Jump-up Gen Str 90K

This would add to the variety of human teams available and make them more interesting.

[Force]

A Human Blocker could actually use the Big Guy slot without beeing a Big Guy himself.

So you can choose to pick an Ogre Blocker or an Human Blocker.

I'd create a human Blocker by reverse engineering Mighty Zug.

4/5/2/9 Block, Mighty Blow (120k) (Veteran 16 SPP)
4/4/2/8 Mighty Blow (90k) (Rookie 0 SPP)

So the Rookie is Zug without his Magic Helmet and Zug is a Veteran with 16 SPP +1ST and Block skill.

Again if you pick a Human Blocker you don't have any more room for an Ogre.

[wishing]

That last suggestion is almost identical to one my friend came up with. I think it feels too much like a black orc though, except stronger, which isn't something I want a BB human to be (Zug is just a freak of nature).

I'd prefer a dwarf-like human blocker myself:

6/70,000 5 3 2 8 block, tackle GS

But I like the guard version as well.

[Mestari]

duff has a nice suggestion about the special players, but his suggestions for the special positions are mostly far too good.
I've alweays liked some extra selection in the teams to allow for own selection about the positions, but these positions myst be no more powerful than the original ones.

Half elves and Runners are redundant. Use runners only. Drop their AV by one to differentiate them from blitzers - otherwise they'd be great blitzers after gaining only one skill (block). To reach the same state, the human blitzers need one double and one normal skill. Way too good that way.

Blockers should have AV8 and either Block or Guard (per the original suggestion in this thread).

Berserkers seem ridiculously good. There should be no option for hiring Norse blitzers in human teams. Therefore drop Block and Jump Up, let him keep Frenzy.

2 Runners 7 3 3 7, dodge, sure hands. Gen 90K
3 Blockers 5 3 3 8 Guard OR Block Gen Str 80K OR 70K
4 Berserker 6 3 3 7 Frenzy Gen Str 60K

[duff]

Drop their AV by one to differentiate them from blitzers - otherwise they'd be great blitzers after gaining only one skill (block). To reach the same state, the human blitzers need one double and one normal skill. Way too good that way.

The runner is supposed to be similar to the blitzer, and is mainly differentiated by getting agility skills and not strength. Thus if you had both, your runner might get catch and sidestep early while blitzers would get gaurd, standfirm and/or mighty blow. Rather than reduce armor, I'd prefer giving them general skill access only if that will balance them.

Runners with general only access would differentiate 1/2 elves from them more .

I like the toned down beserkers.

Another possible special - Defensive safety, 6 3 3 7 passblock tackle 70K Gen only

[Mestari]

But if the runner stays as good as suggested, human team gets blodge+sure hands blitzers by only getting one skill for the runners. Sure they would be running the ball, but they will become better blitzers than the actual blitzers are!

So at the very least their AV should be decreased, preferably they should also lose dodge.

[bound for glory]

call me nuts, but i like a st of 4 for the blocker...

[Taffsadar]

I think humans are abit too weak at the moment, why not just add the two blockers suggested in the original post and be done with them?

[Fronko]

I could DE-FI-NITE-LY need to blocker of that kind for my current human team. I´d trade in all the catchers in the world!!!



And no friggin dodge, I aint playing pansies!

[bubb]

Fronko your team is starting to gain some fame and is now spreading to other boards

[Fronko]

Oops? How so? Where?