Treeman gained strength update...

dendron · Post by **dendron** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:57 am

The tree is playing in halfling team. So he is too importent to lie on the ground. When a opponent takes him down this is bad but if he is starting this on his own block this is worse.

So lets hope that I don't have such bad dices in the next few games.

DM · Post by DM » Wed May 04, 2005 3:59 am

I think a tree with Str 7 & Block would be awesome... then maybe Jump Up or Multiple Block?

Coach Alex · Post by **Coach Alex** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:23 am

Multipleblock would be nice, or break tackle, which would make him an excellent cage-breaker eh!

(btw, Treeman really have access to agility skills? it's a little absurd, even if he spend all this time with elves, he's still a tree dammit!)

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:43 am

No Agility access (except on doubles) and no Jump Up (it's a Aility trait) unless it's from the Buzzing handicap.

poodle · Post by **poodle** » Wed May 04, 2005 11:33 pm

I havent seen the post about not using the +str on trees but i am kinda curious if those that rekon it's not a good idea thought so before the change to BG skill acess?

7 str and multi block means two blocks with double die vs linemen. Not quite as useful as having block admitedly, but you have a decent chance of getting another double at some point and then you're in a sweet position. And what are the odds comparing 2 die blocks with block vs three die blocks without?

hmmm. ok, thats it. Im starting a WE team and not resting till i get mt str 7 tree.

Coach Alex · Post by **Coach Alex** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:07 am

Duh, now that I'm thinking about it, even if a str 7 guy with break tackle could definitely destroy ANY cage, the problem is that a treeman just won't be able to get to it

Unless the opposing player is really stupid indeed ... what shouldn't happen and if it does, try to get in another league, it will be funnier to play ...

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:09 am

poodle wrote:hmmm. ok, thats it. Im starting a WE team and not resting till i get mt str 7 tree.

Why not just hire Deeproot?

Gus · Post by **Gus** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:20 pm

poodle wrote:And what are the odds comparing 2 die blocks with block vs three die blocks without?

only taking into account the chance of the tree falling down, you have a 1/36 to fall with a 2D block with the Block skill, against a 1/27 for a 3D block without Block. so approximately, you fall 1,5 times more without Block than with it.

still, it's +ST all the way.

Coach Alex · Post by **Coach Alex** » Fri May 06, 2005 2:40 pm

Skummy wrote:
poodle wrote:hmmm. ok, thats it. Im starting a WE team and not resting till i get mt str 7 tree.
Why not just hire Deeproot?

Why not doing both?

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Sat May 07, 2005 2:40 pm

Gus wrote:
poodle wrote:And what are the odds comparing 2 die blocks with block vs three die blocks without?
only taking into account the chance of the tree falling down, you have a 1/36 to fall with a 2D block with the Block skill, against a 1/27 for a 3D block without Block. so approximately, you fall 1,5 times more without Block than with it.

still, it's +ST all the way.

Because you are more concerned about knockdowns.

Against a player with block & dodge a 2 dice block only knocks them down 11/36 times (30.5%) while 3 dice without is 42.1% (91/216). If they don't have dodge is 55% vs 70%.