ALWAYS TAKE THE ST UP!!!!!!

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:02 pm

Yeah? Should I take it on my strength gimped goblin?

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:02 pm

TuernRedvenom wrote:
jimy wrote:Except for a player (e.g. gutter runner) with dauntless or horns. With a double six you can make a perfect blitzer with horns and dauntless. Even better than a player with +1st. don't you think?
No.

No really, even then +1 str is better as it keeps you from getting knocked down easily yourself. You still have 4 str on the charge, that's still a 2 die block against most opponents.

If you've taken Dauntless first then its a harder decision than if you've taken Horns. However I reckon Dauntless is the better skill (since it works against higher strengths and doesn't require a blitz & run up) so I normally take that first.

Munkey · Post by **Munkey** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:13 pm

So does that mean you shouldn't sack a player who has gained a ST?

I know a man who has just sacked a ST 4 Block Hobgoblin because he only had AG 2

Tritex · Post by **Tritex** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:08 pm

Munkey wrote:So does that mean you shouldn't sack a player who has gained a ST?

I know a man who has just sacked a ST 4 Block Hobgoblin because he only had AG 2

depends on the team but I would have kept him on even with AG2 and built him as a frontline blocker. I mean an Orc is Str 4 Ag 2 to start with??

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:51 pm

I know a man who has just sacked a ST 4 Block Hobgoblin because he only had AG 2

Since i have nothing good to say about that person, woodelf coaches would love a st 4 lineman even at ag 2, or am i wrong here?

gken1 · Post by **gken1** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:42 pm

should I start another thread???? Keep ST up players even if they are gimped?

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:11 am

As long as you create a full list of all the times you should take the ST+ and all the gimps the player can get and what you should do with the ST+ player.

falconeyed · Post by **falconeyed** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:05 pm

It's somewhat disconcerting that this even needs to be mentioned.

OverDose · Post by **OverDose** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:14 pm

Skummy wrote:Yeah? Should I take it on my strength gimped goblin?

How on earth would any one have such a player? Come on, ST 1 goblin is a retired goblin.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:38 pm

Exactly, its like a -1 av halfling, your just asking your opponents to get free casualties. IMO same goes for -1 mv treemen.

Duke Jan · Post by **Duke Jan** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:22 am

Decreases on stunties... If you have money aplenty retire them, but I would just kep using them till they die. A halfling is still more expensive than stealing re-rolls. And with Gobbo's you could use the money of early retirement better by freebooting secret(?) weapon players.

Playing stunties = free casualties for your opponents. That decrease really doesn't matter.

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:31 pm

IMO same goes for -1 mv treemen.

There are some variables that could come into play there. What skills does he have up to this point?

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:23 pm

Back to the ST4 AG2 Hobo:

I'd sack him too, even more if he has no Block. A ST4 line fodder Hobo will instantly be beaten up by someone at the LOS with either Block or ST4 himself, leaving you a squishy AV7 guy who gets stunned very often and if the opponent has someone with MB you'll be in numerous disadvantage very soon.

Another problem: To field him, you have to forfeit another player on your team - a Chaos Dwarf, Bull Centaur, an AG3 Hobo or Big Guy. All of them are more vital to the team than a ST4 AG2 AV7 no skill dude.

The Florist · Post by **The Florist** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:31 pm

But I don't want the ST upgrade?

gken1 · Post by **gken1** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:42 am

I'd keep that st4 ag2 hobgob...decent hitter and people need to commit 2 assists to get the favored 2 die block.....so hell NO would I sack an ag gimped hobbo!