My XXX Player rolled 12

[TuernRedvenom]

nope, i'd still give a horns/dless gutter runner +ST if given the chance. remember dauntless only works when you're doing the hitting, and ONLY if you make the die roll. trust me, i've failed that 4+ on 2d6 enough times to not take it for granted.

st3 is with you all the time, offense or defense, your turn or opponents, no dice roll required.

very true...