Pick-Drop-Bounce-TD on turn 8.

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Pick-Drop-Bounce-TD on turn 8.

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Hi:

We have created a debate in the Spanish forum about the next situation.

Turn 8. A player tries to pick up the ball and fails.

Here comes the clarification.

The ball bounces, and a player from the active team in the opposite End Zone tries to catch it.

First question. Can he use a Team RR?
2n. Q: If he succesfully catches the ball, is it a TD?

I have my own opinion but i prefer to discusse here too :p

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I'll say yes to both as the ball must come to rest before the turnover actually takes places. So you keep on playing as normal until it does.

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Yes he may use a team reroll to catch it, the team turn is not over until the ball comes to rest.

Yes it is a touchdown.

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Re: Pick-Drop-Bounce-TD on turn 8.

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grotuk wrote:Hi:

We have created a debate in the Spanish forum about the next situation.

Turn 8. A player tries to pick up the ball and fails.

Here comes the clarification.

The ball bounces, and a player from the active team in the opposite End Zone tries to catch it.
First question. Can he use a Team RR?
Yes, you can use a team reroll in your own turn.
2n. Q: If he succesfully catches the ball, is it a TD?
As soon as the active player ends his action on the pitch yes.

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Post by grotuk »

But as soon as you fail picking up the ball the turn ends and so the action.

So its not your turn. A player with the ball appears in the endzone After the match's last action...

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grotuk wrote:But as soon as you fail picking up the ball the turn ends and so the action.
Wrong. The turn does not end until the ball comes to rest.

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I would go so far as to say that although the action is a turnover, until the ball comes to rest it is not a turnover.

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[quote= "LRB 4.0"]If the D6 roll is less than the required total, then the player drops the ball, which will scatter one square. If the player drops the ball then his team suffers a turnover and their team turn ends immediately.[/quote]

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Post by Gorbad »

Duh...

I should read the first post more carefully, it's a pickup....

Following the letter of the law, you do resolve the scatter (and can use a team reroll, it's still your turn)... so you could catch it in the endzone, and not have it count as a TD as a failed pickup is always a turnover.

Hmm...

Odd situation to say the least.

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play PBBL rules and house it as a TD! :lol:

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Official Q&A wrote:Q: What happens after a turnover?
A: A coach that suffers a turnover must end his turn immediately - even if part way through a player's action. The only three exceptions to this is that Armour and injury rolls must be made for players that have been knocked over, the ball must be scattered until it comes to rest, and your players stunned on previous turns are faced up.
So the turn is not technically over until armour is rolled, the ball comes to rest and players are unstunned, you can catch the bouncing ball using a TRR and it would be TD.

You can score in your opponent's turn if you catch the ball in the endzone, I'm quite sure it's somewhere in the rules. So catching in the (correct) endzone is always a TD.

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Duke Jan wrote: You can score in your opponent's turn if you catch the ball in the endzone, I'm quite sure it's somewhere in the rules.
I don't have the rules with me, but I think it is on page 15.

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Post by Gorbad »

16... but anyway :wink:

I will correct myself yet again... and say that i should read the rules before replying....

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A team scores a touchdown when one of their players is standing in the opposing team’s End Zone while holding the football at the end of any player's action.
It doesn't say anything (anymore) about your own action, or success level of the action. So it's a TD.

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Post by voyagers_uk »

plus if you have a reroll spare, why not reroll the failed pick up

then no turnover in the first place.

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voyagers_uk wrote:plus if you have a reroll spare, why not reroll the failed pick up

then no turnover in the first place.
Could have been already rerolled with Sure Hands. Or it was a Big Guy that tried the Pickup :wink:

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