Hail Mary pass

Magictobe · Post by **Magictobe** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:18 am

Do you get a completion when a member of your team catches your hail mary pass?

Can any one tell me the odds that a player with diving catch gets the oppurtunity to catch the hail mary pass?

Thank you

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:22 am

No Completion, because a Hail Mary is always Inaccurate, and a pass has to be Accurate for a completion.

As for the chance, no idea, but someone (Doubleskulls?) worked it out once and posted it here or on the SG forum.

slup · Post by **slup** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:17 am

The chance is roughly 50%, then add the possibility of a succesful catch (without the normal +1 for an accurate pass)

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:35 pm

slup wrote:The chance is roughly 50%,

Are you sure there's a 50% chance the ball will end up in an adjacent square after the scatter?

darren woodward · Post by **darren woodward** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:40 pm

is a completed Hm pass still a Turnover?

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:53 pm

A completed pass is never a turnover, even a Hail Mary one.

The odds of the Hail Mary being caught are slim but if it is you carry on as normal.

Just remember, only a failed pass is a turnover. That means after the scatter and all the bounces and juggling, if the ball comes to rest on the ground or in the hands of your opponent. If the ball is caught by a member of your team, no matter how many times you have to roll that d8, it's not a turnover.

DaFoola · Post by **DaFoola** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:19 pm

Snew wrote: Just remember, only a failed pass is a turnover. That means after the scatter and all the bounces and juggling, if the ball comes to rest on the ground or in the hands of your opponent. If the ball is caught by a member of your team, no matter how many times you have to roll that d8, it's not a turnover.

. . . and the ball can even scatter out of bounds, get thrown in, bounce, and be caught by a member of your team, without a turnover occurring, yes?

slup · Post by **slup** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:32 pm

Snew wrote:
slup wrote:The chance is roughly 50%,

Are you sure there's a 50% chance the ball will end up in an adjacent square after the scatter?

I just redid the math and it came to 49,6% if the thrower has pass and including the possibility of the ball landing 2 squares away and bounces back to the catcher (45,6% for a direct hit).

Out of the 512 total combination of 3 times scatter 240 will end in a square next to target or right on target which makes the 45,6%.

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:55 pm

DaFoola wrote:
Snew wrote: Just remember, only a failed pass is a turnover. That means after the scatter and all the bounces and juggling, if the ball comes to rest on the ground or in the hands of your opponent. If the ball is caught by a member of your team, no matter how many times you have to roll that d8, it's not a turnover.
. . . and the ball can even scatter out of bounds, get thrown in, bounce, and be caught by a member of your team, without a turnover occurring, yes?

Yes, and if the throw was also accurate, the thrower'd get SPPs for it too.

Magictobe · Post by **Magictobe** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:19 pm

Thank you for all the responses. Now I know a lot extra about the hail mary pass.

Looks fun to use and usefull when you want the ball on the other side

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Thank you