Blitz and Fanatic Invasion Q's

Buggrit · Post by **Buggrit** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:38 am

If the kicking team get's a Blitz result on the Kick Off Table is it possible for them to then score a TD during their free turn using players not in tackle zones? (I did, using a goblin lobbing dodging play, wanted to know if it was legal or not)

Also if a team plays a fanatic invasion and then uses the fanatic to block one of your players who slaps the fanatic down and injures him would that player get a CAS for doing so? (my thought was No because the CAS rule states opposition player, which the fanatic isn't.)

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:11 pm

The first part of the question is easy to answer. If during a Blitz you get a player, who was not in the opponents TZ at the start of the Blitz, in the opponents End Zone where the ball will be landing and you catch it at the end of your blitz turn, then YES it's a touchdown! Very legal!

The second question I honestly don't know. But I think if the fanatic blocks you and goes down himself and gets injured, it should be a CAS.

jaylazer · Post by **jaylazer** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:36 pm

Draco wrote:The first part of the question is easy to answer. If during a Blitz you get a player, who was not in the opponents TZ at the start of the Blitz, in the opponents End Zone where the ball will be landing and you catch it at the end of your blitz turn, then YES it's a touchdown! Very legal!

I was about to question this but after reading the rules again this is right.

The reason I was going to question it is that the ball doesn't actually land until after the blitz turn is over. It isn't either teams turn when the ball is caught.

However, the rules say under the heading SCORING IN THE OPPONENTâ€™S TURN

If one of your players is holding the ball in the opposing team's End Zone at any point during your opponent's turn then your team scores a touchdown immediately, ...

So, it wouldn't be a TD until your opponent started their turn. Since they wouldn't be able to do anything it would still be a TD.

Follow up question: what happens to your opponents turn?

It looks to me like they would lose that turn. You would lose your next turn and you would setup again.

Does that sound right?

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:54 pm

That is indeed correct. You score in your opponents turn and loose you own turn (move the turnmarker). Then set up again and score with the next blitz!

Cramy · Post by **Cramy** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:04 pm

(I did, using a goblin lobbing dodging play, wanted to know if it was legal or not)

As the others have said, the only way that this is legal is for you to stand in the EZ, the ball bounces on you, and you catch the ball.

If you caught the ball and ran into the EZ, that is not legal. The ball has not landed yet, so you can't catch it / pick it up.

Rab · Post by **Rab** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:57 am

Cramy wrote:If you caught the ball and ran into the EZ, that is not legal. The ball has not landed yet, so you can't catch it / pick it up.

That's my understanding, too.

Buggrit · Post by **Buggrit** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:35 pm

Yup, that's cool, means that the gobbo won't get the SPP's for the TD and the result will change from 4-1 to 3-1... but that's okay.

The bigger issue at the moment is the Fanatic.
The CAS section of the SPP's states that CAS's are earned for causing a casualty as part of a block on a member of the opposition. But do Fanatics count as opposing players? Technically they're non aligned and moved by both players. Would either team get a CAS result for causing an injury to them?

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:40 pm

I presume the fanatic is a card and not the starplayer you are referring to?

I would rule that if the fanatic changes sides the the players team who is opposing him gets a cas. He is still a player of either one team in turn 1A or the other in turn 1B.

Cramy · Post by **Cramy** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:44 pm

Yup, that's cool, means that the gobbo won't get the SPP's for the TD and the result will change from 4-1 to 3-1... but that's okay.

Why would the gobbo not get SPPs for the TD? He did score ...

Buggrit · Post by **Buggrit** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:45 pm

Draco wrote:I presume the fanatic is a card and not the starplayer you are referring to?

Correct, Fanatic Invasion as opposed to a regular Goblin Fanatic because I know I'd get the CAS for smacking one of those little fella's down.

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:46 pm

He didn't score. He picked up the ball where it scattered forgetting that it's just marking the square it will come down in after the Kick off table results are resolved.

Buggrit · Post by **Buggrit** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:47 pm

Snew wrote:He didn't score. He picked up the ball where it scattered forgetting that it's just marking the square it will come down in after the Kick off table results are resolved.

I know, that's why he won't get the SPP for it and I've modified the end score as a result of this. Although it won't affect the overall result, just the number of TD's I scored. 3-1 instead of 4-1.

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:47 pm

I presume he meant that the TD was scored after running the ball in with the gobbo and therefor illegal.

Post by **Old Man Draco** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:48 pm

Oops, allready answered!

Buggrit · Post by **Buggrit** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:50 pm

Yup, I've already gathered that, we know it was an illegal TD and the score has been altered as a result, the Turn marker wasn't moved (oops) and so we played a regular length game and as nothing else happened during that blitz (apart from some blocking which didn't do anything) the kick off that followed didn't do anything but reset the game to where we were before the kick off that the blitz occurred on. (phew)