Dwarf team I'd like to see tested

Got a great idea and/or proposal for BloodBowl?

Moderator: TFF Mods

User avatar
Darkson
Da Spammer
Posts: 24047
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:04 pm
Location: The frozen ruins of Felstad
Contact:

Dwarf team I'd like to see tested

Post by Darkson »

0-2 Runners 6/3/3/8 Sure Hands G/P (P is :puke: , but not as :puke: as a Dwarf with Ag)
0-4 Blitzers 5/3/3/9 Block GS
0-2 Troll Slayers 5/3/2/8 Block, Frenzy, Dauntless GS
0-4 Blockers 4/3/2/9 Block, Stand Firm GS
0-16 Linemen 4/3/2/9 Block, Sure Feet G
All have Thick Skull (players prices as acceptable)
Rerolls 50k


Bit more speed, bit more AG (so perhaps the runners will actually take the P skills), a Dwarf-like skill (Stand Firm), no tackle (never seen any justification for it), and less S access.


Now for the demolishing.

Reason: ''
Currently an ex-Blood Bowl coach, most likely to be found dying to Armoured Skeletons in the frozen ruins of Felstad, or bleeding into the arena sands of Rome or burning rubber for Mars' entertainment.
voyagers_uk
Da Cynic
Posts: 7462
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am
Location: Nice Red Uniforms and Fanatical devotion to the Pope!

Post by voyagers_uk »

tbh, I don't even feel like bothering........ lets talk about Bretonians instead

Reason: ''
Image
Ikterus wrote: But for the record, play Voyagers_UK if you have the chance. He's cursed! :P
voyagers_uk
Da Cynic
Posts: 7462
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am
Location: Nice Red Uniforms and Fanatical devotion to the Pope!

Post by voyagers_uk »

although (cause I am bored) I will say that for someone who is against BIG changes

Why not stop at the obvious winners
50k rerolls
0-4 blitzers

and see how that does for a bit If the team is still not worse than Goblins in LRB5 then why not go for the rest of the plan.

Reason: ''
Image
Ikterus wrote: But for the record, play Voyagers_UK if you have the chance. He's cursed! :P
PubBowler
Legend
Legend
Posts: 2073
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:41 pm
Location: Glasgow

Post by PubBowler »

What's your justification for Sure Feet?

Especially as you hate the idea of Dwarf players getting Agility access. It seems strange to give the majority of the team an Agility Skill straight off the bat.

I think the roster would look better with just Block on the lineman and a reduction in cost.

Reason: ''
Team Scotland Record:
EuroBowl 2009: 3-2-1

Gimmicks>Shennanigans>Everything Else
voyagers_uk
Da Cynic
Posts: 7462
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am
Location: Nice Red Uniforms and Fanatical devotion to the Pope!

Post by voyagers_uk »

to be honest, if you did that, A Dwarf Roster could easily max positionals have 3 rerolls and 12 men, however without Tackle you would have to increase their MA just to keep them at their current win ratio versus most teams.


Keeping Tackle gives them identity, if you want less players on the field increase the Blitzer allowance and reroll costs appropriately

I personally would only take 4 Blockers in a 12 man set-up, so 4 players with Tackle, I really cannot understand the problem.

just for interest sake
4 Blockers
4 Blitzers
2 Runners
2 Slayers
1 reroll
1 FF

I would play that team any day and the only players who might "gain" tackle would be the Slayers who I treat as threat hunters anyway.

Reason: ''
Image
Ikterus wrote: But for the record, play Voyagers_UK if you have the chance. He's cursed! :P
User avatar
Darkson
Da Spammer
Posts: 24047
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:04 pm
Location: The frozen ruins of Felstad
Contact:

Post by Darkson »

PubBowler wrote:What's your justification for Sure Feet?
Originally I was going to make the lino MA5, but I think that's a bit much for dwarfs.

Reason: ''
Currently an ex-Blood Bowl coach, most likely to be found dying to Armoured Skeletons in the frozen ruins of Felstad, or bleeding into the arena sands of Rome or burning rubber for Mars' entertainment.
Duke Jan
Legend
Legend
Posts: 2741
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:58 pm
Location: Watching the great unclean armpits of a Beast Of Nurgle
Contact:

Re: Dwarf team I'd like to see tested

Post by Duke Jan »

Darkson wrote: no tackle (never seen any justification for it)
I think the justification is that there's no prehensile beard skill ;)

Reason: ''
Image

Nuffle Sucks!
fen
Legend
Legend
Posts: 3081
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:13 am

Post by fen »

voyagers_uk wrote:Why not stop at the obvious winners
50k rerolls
0-4 blitzers
This summer (2 seasons) the Dwarf teams in our league will be trying out 0-4 Blitzers and 50K rerolls. Should be interesting to see how they play.

I hate Dwarf teams with a passion, but I really like the Dwarf positionals. (So I guess I just hate Dwarf Blockers) This method seems to reduce the number of blockers on pitch, while also giving the Dwarf team the ability to play a faster paced game if they desire.

The optimist in me hopes that it'll open up the ability for Dwarf teams to play fast flowing blood bowl if they desire.
But the cynic just thinks that the Dwarfs will carry on grinding. Just with the ability to move faster when needed.

Reason: ''
User avatar
Grumbledook
Boy Band Member
Posts: 10713
Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2002 6:53 pm
Location: London Town

Post by Grumbledook »

i think they should have a giant big guy

Reason: ''
User avatar
Darkson
Da Spammer
Posts: 24047
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:04 pm
Location: The frozen ruins of Felstad
Contact:

Post by Darkson »

Oops - forgot to add that.

Stone Statue - 0/9/0/10 Stunty (for the +1 to injury), Take Root (automatically failed), Bone Head (automatically failed), S

Reason: ''
Currently an ex-Blood Bowl coach, most likely to be found dying to Armoured Skeletons in the frozen ruins of Felstad, or bleeding into the arena sands of Rome or burning rubber for Mars' entertainment.
User avatar
Physix
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 29
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:47 pm
Location: Germany

Post by Physix »

The idea for 0-4 Blitzers and 50k RR has grown on me but I fear it gives dwarfs more options without any real drawbacks.
Following is an idea for dwarf teams I posted in a different thread a while ago. Maybe there are some ideas that you like.

I am too one of those that think the dwarf team needs a change, not necessarily because it is to strong (vs some teams) but rather because you get a complete team with not much to add.
Even though the following team does not address the 'complete starting roster' problem, I think it may be a step in the right direction.

0-16 Dwarfs 4329 Tackle,Thick Skull 60k
0-2 Runner 6338 Sure Hands, Thick Skull 80k
0-2 Blitzer 5339 Block, Thick Skull 80k
0-2 Troll Slayer 5328 Block, Dauntless, Frenzy, Thick Skull 90k
0-2 Blocker/Guards 4329 Block, Guard, Thick Skull 90k
0-1 Deathroller
RR 50k

This roster limits either the number of block or tackle on a starting team and compensates for it a bit by adding 2 players with guard.

example team:
2 Blocker 180k
2 Slayer 180k
2 Blitzer 160k
2 Runner 160k
3 Dwarfs 180k
2 RR 100k
40k to spend
or 1 less positional player for another RR.

Reason: ''
voyagers_uk
Da Cynic
Posts: 7462
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am
Location: Nice Red Uniforms and Fanatical devotion to the Pope!

Post by voyagers_uk »

Darkson wrote:Oops - forgot to add that.

Stone Statue - 0/9/0/10 Stunty (for the +1 to injury), Take Root (automatically failed), Bone Head (automatically failed), S
After forcibly removing the HOOK from my cheek, I will avoid this thread as it is obviously designed to bait people who like Dwarves :roll:

Reason: ''
Image
Ikterus wrote: But for the record, play Voyagers_UK if you have the chance. He's cursed! :P
User avatar
Darkson
Da Spammer
Posts: 24047
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:04 pm
Location: The frozen ruins of Felstad
Contact:

Post by Darkson »

voyagers_uk wrote:
Darkson wrote:Oops - forgot to add that.

Stone Statue - 0/9/0/10 Stunty (for the +1 to injury), Take Root (automatically failed), Bone Head (automatically failed), S
After forcibly removing the HOOK from my cheek, I will avoid this thread as it is obviously designed to bait people who like Dwarves :roll:
No, but the BG is designed to bait people that think dwarfs need a BG. :evil:

Reason: ''
Currently an ex-Blood Bowl coach, most likely to be found dying to Armoured Skeletons in the frozen ruins of Felstad, or bleeding into the arena sands of Rome or burning rubber for Mars' entertainment.
User avatar
Colin
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5542
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2002 2:23 am
Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada

Post by Colin »

The Dwarfs already have a BG, it's called the Death Roller. :roll:

Reason: ''
GO STAMPEDERS!
User avatar
Darkson
Da Spammer
Posts: 24047
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:04 pm
Location: The frozen ruins of Felstad
Contact:

Post by Darkson »

I'm ignoring that one. :wink:

Reason: ''
Currently an ex-Blood Bowl coach, most likely to be found dying to Armoured Skeletons in the frozen ruins of Felstad, or bleeding into the arena sands of Rome or burning rubber for Mars' entertainment.
Post Reply