Star Players at Tournaments

Geoff Watson · Post by **Geoff Watson** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:28 am

What do you think of using Star Players at tournaments? Some tournaments allow them.

They're pricey, but some might be worthwhile.

Which Stars would you consider using?

Geoff.

PubBowler · Post by **PubBowler** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:44 am

I've seen:

Deeproot (wouldn't take a halfing team without him).

A selection of the Goblin Secret Weapon Stars.

Helmut Wolf (I think Panico took him with his Amazons at MonkeyBowl).

I haven't seen but I think have potential.

Ripper
The Dwarf Secret Weapon Stars (except Barik).
Ugroth Bolgrot
Max SpleenRipper
Hack N Slash

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:50 am

Gobbos, Halfs and Ogre teams can't make it competitively w/o them... should be banned from others....

PubBowler · Post by **PubBowler** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:56 am

@ Vomit:

Not sure I'd take a starplayer on an ogre team. Although tempted by Brick & friend I'm still not sure he's that useful. Or are you suggesting another.

Leipziger · Post by **Leipziger** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:00 am

The Waterbowl Weekender allows star players and I don't think we've had any complaints about it. As was said above, the stunty teams need that option to be more competitive and also the stars for the other teams are very expensive, so are unlikely to be taken. Even if they are, team will have to suffer in other areas (re-rolls, number of positionals etc) to compensate.

At tournaments, I have seen:
The goblin star players
Ripper
Deeproot
Luthor

On a slightly different note, we played necros featuring Ramtut under LRB 4. He was an amazing game breaker. However, we found out that break tackle was a one use per turn skill when we read the rules properly! No more multiple dancing mummy for us (d'oh!)

Cheers

Leip

Ginger_Ninja · Post by **Ginger_Ninja** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:31 am

I did think about trying to squeze an Endril Sidewinder into my High Elf Team at the Waterbowl 2007. droping a blitzer and a lineman didn't seem worth it, though.

Sam.

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:31 pm

I've seen Zug at tourneys before. He's essentially an ogre without bonehead, and with block. That's always a nice combo. 230k is uncheap, but then human teams can afford that if they're willing to make the sacrifice.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:57 pm

wesleytj wrote:I've seen Zug at tourneys before. He's essentially an ogre without bonehead, and with block. That's always a nice combo. 230k is uncheap, but then human teams can afford that if they're willing to make the sacrifice.

Zug I think is an excellent example of how stars can now work in a tournament. Ogres are 140k so Zug is 90k more. For that you lose bonehead, -MA & gain block. IMO that's not necessarily an obvious decision to make - especially when that a TRR or positional less on the team.

I think most LRB5 pricings are about right - and the "best" stars - Griff, Morg etc are so outrageously expensive that taking them cripples the team.

fen · Post by **fen** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:00 pm

PubBowler wrote:Not sure I'd take a starplayer on an ogre team. Although tempted by Brick & friend I'm still not sure he's that useful. Or are you suggesting another.

Brick + Grotty is probably better than a normal Ogre. The AG4 Goblin is seriously useful and Brick is better than a normal Ogre.

Brick - Ogre + Strong Arm and NoS = 190K
Grotty - Goblin + Loner + AG4 = 80K (and you can't normally field a Goblin)
Which is 270K + a ST2 AG4 positional and that's priceless.

So the 290K Price tag is a bargain imo. I find myself wishing they played for Goblin teams, I'd take Goblins to TV110 tournaments then.

Nethrag · Post by **Nethrag** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:59 pm

I nearly took Brick and grotty on my chaos team, maybe I should of because they didn't do anything special without them! lol

sangraal · Post by **sangraal** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:26 am

I thought about L von D + 10 Thralls for a tourney that allows teams to start with skills, either a fixed amount or paid for from inducements.

mainly for a laugh although it could work OK.

I like Hack Enslash for the cost, sidestep is annoying, sidestep with chainsaw is annoying & also potentially fatal.

I'll be taking him in my Necro team to a tourney in about a month.

Before I decided on Necros, I was going to take Welfs & tried to squeeze Jordell in the team instead of 2 wardancers - I've used Jordell once in a sevens game - he is fricking awesome, but after looking at both versions of the roster, I just could not justify taking him, & this is a TV125 tourney!

Keeping up with the skills arms race is just more important than having 1 or 2 Uber players - for tier 1 teams anyway.

sangraal