Fend/SideStep/Frenzy

Buggrit · Post by **Buggrit** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:32 pm

I've got an interesting query...

A player with Frenzy blocks a player with Sidestep and Fend and gets the push back. The Sidestepper moves to a square adjacent to the Blocker, can the blocking player hit them again (being frenzied and having their target still in a tackle zone) despite not being able to follow up on the first block?

I'll try and show you what I mean with a bad pictogram

D=Sidestep/Fend/Defender
B=Blocker

Pre 1st Block
X X X
X D X
X B X

Post 1st Block

X X X
X X D
X B X

Rituro · Post by **Rituro** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:39 pm

LRB5, pg.66:

When making a block, a player with [Frenzy] must always follow up if they can. If a 'Pushed' or 'Defender Stumbles' result was chosen, the player must immediately throw a second block against the same opponent so long as they are both still standing and adjacent.

Normally, Fend would effectively cancel Frenzy because you are pushed away from and no longer adjacent to the frenzied player. However, because you are Side-Stepping and still adjacent after the first block is thrown, Frenzy kicks in and you are eligible to be blocked a second time.

And, if I may say so, that pictogram was quite awesome.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:43 pm

If you Sidestep next to the Frenzy player than Frenzy will still work.

Galak

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:27 pm

Buggrit wrote:I've got an interesting query...

A player with Frenzy ...can the blocking player hit them again... despite not being able to follow up on the first block?

For this same reason, Stand Firm does not negate Frenzy either.

Strangely, Frenzy is negated 100% by Fend alone, but not by a player with Sidestep and Fend.

Rustycan · Post by **Rustycan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:24 am

So normally Fend negates Frenzy, but if some poor elf player takes sidestep, then he kinda screws himself over with respect to Frenzy?!

Thinking of these things makes my head hurt!!!!

Geoff Watson · Post by **Geoff Watson** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:13 am

Rustycan wrote:So normally Fend negates Frenzy, but if some poor elf player takes sidestep, then he kinda screws himself over with respect to Frenzy?! Thinking of these things makes my head hurt!!!!

Only if he chooses to 'Sidestep' to next to the Frenzy player.

Geoff.

Cramy · Post by **Cramy** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:23 pm

Geoff Watson wrote:
Rustycan wrote:So normally Fend negates Frenzy, but if some poor elf player takes sidestep, then he kinda screws himself over with respect to Frenzy?! Thinking of these things makes my head hurt!!!!
Only if he chooses to 'Sidestep' to next to the Frenzy player.

Geoff.

Which would usually be a bad idea ...

Buggrit · Post by **Buggrit** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:33 pm

Unless not doing so gets your elf like ass shoved off the pitch

grampyseer · Post by **grampyseer** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:58 am

What if it was a blitz action?

Could the frenzied blitzer follow up (with 1 movement) then throw the 2nd block?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:47 pm

No, as Frenzy allows you to make two blocks in succession, whereas what you described would be a block/move/block.

grampyseer · Post by **grampyseer** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:21 pm

Ok, that makes sense

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