Experimental Beastman Team

Rituro · Post by **Rituro** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:21 pm

stashman wrote:Why is Ungor ST 2 ?

My proposal (skip the Ungor):

0-16 Beastmen 6 3 3 8 Horns GSM 60K
0-4 Beastlord 6 4 3 8 Horns GSM 100K
0-2 Centigor 8 3 2 8 Horns, Juggernaut GSM 130K
0-1 Minotaur (same as for Chaos)
Rerolls 70K

I'd lose Strength access for the beastmen right away. They're linemen -- make them only as powerful as a lineman need be.

Beastlord at 110k works for me.

Lose Horns on the Centigors, bring back Sprint and/or Sure Feet. They have four legs... shouldn't that be reflected in the skills?

stashman · Post by **stashman** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:22 pm

Rituro wrote: Lose Horns on the Centigors, bring back Sprint and/or Sure Feet. They have four legs... shouldn't that be reflected in the skills?

Just another bullcentaur

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:47 pm

bouf wrote:And you guys are right... No Mutation access for ungors.

If CD's get M access on a double, I'd say Ungors should get it on a normal roll.
A Beastman without M access isn't a beastman.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:49 pm

Rituro wrote:I'd lose Strength access for the beastmen right away. They're linemen -- make them only as powerful as a lineman need be.

[Sarcasm on (mainly directed at JJ)] You can't have players with the same name, but on different rosters, having different stat lines, it's to confusing for everyone. [sarcasm off]

jollyork · Post by **jollyork** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:09 pm

atropabelladonna wrote: edit. If you are referring to the original post, I am assuming it is a typo as a 6237 player for 40K is totally horrible. Must be 6337.

No typo, that's the exact stat line (and cost) for a Goblin so I just used that for ease. Maybe it is "totally horrible," but I like having sub-par LM along with all these big strong positionals.

What's the verdict on Drunk vs Bonehead-Frenzy? I like the randomness of Drunk, but the B-F combo has the advantage of not being a new rule. Hmm, I think I'm even leaning towards that myself...

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:52 pm

jollyork wrote:
atropabelladonna wrote: edit. If you are referring to the original post, I am assuming it is a typo as a 6237 player for 40K is totally horrible. Must be 6337.
No typo, that's the exact stat line (and cost) for a Goblin so I just used that for ease.

Apart from the fact that a gobbo gets Dodge, Right Stuff and Stunty.

What's the verdict on Drunk vs Bonehead-Frenzy? I like the randomness of Drunk, but the B-F combo has the advantage of not being a new rule. Hmm, I think I'm even leaning towards that myself...

Bah! Drunk should win hands down, but with GW's current desire to simplify everything, and the masses following....

GW Employee: "Hi! Fancy a game of 40K 5th edition? You only need to spend £1500 on an army. Got that? Cool! Roll a dice. A 6!! Well done, you win. Fancy another game?"

Rituro · Post by **Rituro** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:04 pm

Darkson wrote:GW Employee: "Hi! Fancy a game of 40K 5th edition? You only need to spend £1500 on an army. Got that? Cool! Roll a dice. A 6!! Well done, you win. Fancy another game?"

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Darkson wrote:A Beastman without M access isn't a beastman.

Fair enough. Mutations on doubles for ungors, then? After all, they're ungors -- they are unworthy of favour from the Chaos Gods!

atropabelladonna wrote:What's the verdict on Drunk vs Bonehead-Frenzy? I like the randomness of Drunk, but the B-F combo has the advantage of not being a new rule. Hmm, I think I'm even leaning towards that myself...

It's an experimental team; go with the experimental rule.

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:55 pm

Code: Select all

0-16   40,000   Ungors      6  3  3  7   G/APSM   ~  
0-4    60,000   Gors        6  3  3  8   GS/APM   Horns   
0-2    90,000   Bestigors   6  3  3  9   GSM/AP   Block, Horns   
0-2    110,000  Centigors   7  3  3  8   GS/APM   Bone-Head, Frenzy, Sprint, Sure Feet   
0-1    150,000  Minotaur    5  5  2  8   S/GAPM   (skills as LRB)   
Rerolls: 70,000

I'm really starting to back this team and am thinking about adding it to my league as a house ruled team. (pending a positive vote that is...)

Are the Prices about right?

What 6 star players would they get?

Max Spleenripper
Wilhelm Chaney
Lord Borak the Despoiler
Icepelt Hammerblow
Grashnak Blackhoof
Morg 'n' Thorg

More feed back please!

Rituro · Post by **Rituro** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:17 pm

bouf wrote:What 6 star players would they get?

Max Spleenripper
Wilhelm Chaney
Lord Borak the Despoiler
Icepelt Hammerblow
Grashnak Blackhoof
Morg 'n' Thorg

Only part of that I disagree with is Icepelt Hammerblow. Could any other star player possibly take his place?

stashman · Post by **stashman** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:55 pm

If we make a team - make a new star

Batista 200K
6 3 3 8 Horns, Very Long Legs, Leap, Wrestle, Thick Skull

Rituro · Post by **Rituro** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:44 pm

stashman wrote:If we make a team - make a new star

Batista 200K
6 3 3 8 Horns, Very Long Legs, Leap, Wrestle, Thick Skull

...Batista, The Frog-Beast-Man?

jollyork · Post by **jollyork** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:29 pm

Zzargh Madeye? Just for the fun of having all the Chaos reprezentin'.

Rituro · Post by **Rituro** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:13 pm

I knew there was one more Chaos star waiting out there, just couldn't put my finger on it. Good call.

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:35 pm

What do you think, Drop Max for teh Z man?

Rituro · Post by **Rituro** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:33 pm

No way! Keep the chainsaw, drop the ice troll. IMO, Icepelt is the odd one out of the first star player list. Thus, my list would like:

Grashnak Blackhoof
Lord Borak the Despoiler
Max Spleenripper
Morg 'n' Thorg
Wilhelm Chaney
Zzargh Madeye