Experimental Beastman Team

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:39 am

Any Feed back from any one else?

I'm pretty keen to add this to my league for season two and want it to be ballanced!

atropabelladonna · Post by **atropabelladonna** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:04 pm

bouf wrote:
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0-16   40,000   Ungors      6  3  3  7   G/APSM   ~  
0-4    60,000   Gors        6  3  3  8   GS/APM   Horns   
0-2    90,000   Bestigors   6  3  3  9   GSM/AP   Block, Horns   
0-2    110,000  Centigors   7  3  3  8   GS/APM   Bone-Head, Frenzy, Sprint, Sure Feet   
0-1    150,000  Minotaur    5  5  2  8   S/GAPM   (skills as LRB)   
Rerolls: 70,000
I'm really starting to back this team and am thinking about adding it to my league as a house ruled team. (pending a positive vote that is...)

Are the Prices about right?

What 6 star players would they get?

Max Spleenripper
Wilhelm Chaney
Lord Borak the Despoiler
Icepelt Hammerblow
Grashnak Blackhoof
Morg 'n' Thorg

More feed back please!

Seems like a pretty decent team to me but I would give mutation access on a regular roll for everything but the minotaur (and maybe even him). It is almost the same as a chaos dwarf team, but a bit weaker as the 6 chaos dwarves are better than the 4 gors/beastigors. And the centigor is not as good as the bull centuar. So no power issues. I think new teams should be cautious on the power level. So give mutations to all.

I agree with the others about Icepelt. put in zharg.

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:36 pm

I had a thought about this one…

Atropabelladonna is right that it’s just a revamped CDwarf roster… Which got me thinking: “How can I make this more unique without going Crazy?”

It struck me that people are always trying to come up with a Khorne roster. With the Nurgle roster out there too… Well maybe this would work.

The Centigors and Minotaur already have frenzy… If I add frenzy to the Gors and Bestigors, then all the positionals will be Wild Eyed Loonies!

So it would look like this…

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0-16   40,000   Ungors      6  3  3  7   G/APSM   ~  
0-4    70,000   Gors        6  3  3  8   GS/APM   Horns, Frenzy   
0-2    100,000  Khornegors  6  3  3  9   GSM/AP   Block, Horns, Frenzy   
0-2    110,000  Centigors   7  3  3  8   GS/APM   Bone-Head, Frenzy, Sprint, Sure Feet   
0-1    150,000  Minotaur    5  5  2  8   S/GAPM   (skills as LRB)   
Rerolls: 70,000

What do you think? In one step you could have a Khorne roster and a Beast roster… They would have a truly fearsome Blitz attack but little Strength for Blocks or Defence. Their altered M access makes them a little unique and helps set them apart from the other Chaos rosters. You’d be a little mad to run with all the Frenzy guys on the pitch at once but if it worked it could really pay off!

1. Is this going too far?
2. Was it better the first time?
3. Norse already have a noose on Frenzy, does this mirror that a little too much?
4. The Huge amount of Frenzy would probably push the team into a Tier 2 position, which isn't a problem, but is it too much gimmick?

Also for you old dogs… Is there any fluff for a Khorne team? (I’m a third edition boy) All I remember from my limited exposure to 2nd ed is the Nurgle guy eating Pop-Khorne… Would a “Beast” Khorne team violate the spirit of any old school fluff?

atropabelladonna · Post by **atropabelladonna** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:30 pm

bouf wrote:I had a thought about this one…

Atropabelladonna is right that it’s just a revamped CDwarf roster… Which got me thinking: “How can I make this more unique without going Crazy?”

It struck me that people are always trying to come up with a Khorne roster. With the Nurgle roster out there too… Well maybe this would work.

The Centigors and Minotaur already have frenzy… If I add frenzy to the Gors and Bestigors, then all the positionals will be Wild Eyed Loonies!

So it would look like this…
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0-16   40,000   Ungors      6  3  3  7   G/APSM   ~  
0-4    70,000   Gors        6  3  3  8   GS/APM   Horns, Frenzy   
0-2    100,000  Khornegors  6  3  3  9   GSM/AP   Block, Horns, Frenzy   
0-2    110,000  Centigors   7  3  3  8   GS/APM   Bone-Head, Frenzy, Sprint, Sure Feet   
0-1    150,000  Minotaur    5  5  2  8   S/GAPM   (skills as LRB)   
Rerolls: 70,000
What do you think? In one step you could have a Khorne roster and a Beast roster… They would have a truly fearsome Blitz attack but little Strength for Blocks or Defence. Their altered M access makes them a little unique and helps set them apart from the other Chaos rosters. You’d be a little mad to run with all the Frenzy guys on the pitch at once but if it worked it could really pay off!

1. Is this going too far?
2. Was it better the first time?
3. Norse already have a noose on Frenzy, does this mirror that a little too much?
4. The Huge amount of Frenzy would probably push the team into a Tier 2 position, which isn't a problem, but is it too much gimmick?

I have no problems with it. Lots of frenzy is interesting but I have to agree that it does step on the Norse team a bit. I do like it better than the original team though. Another skill that relates to Khorne is +1AV (armour of khorne). You could go that route if you wish. A bit more bland than frenzy...

I wouls still give them mutation access on everyone except the mino (and that is just to play it safe).

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:22 am

Hi all,
Bouf said:
>Atropabelladonna is right that it’s just a revamped CDwarf roster.

Coincidentally, I've created a beastman team which was actually supposed to be a revamped chaos dwarf team. Playtest so far shows that it is a solid team (like chaos dwarfs) but not unbalanced, as far as I can tell from the feedback.

You can see it here - purely for your inspiration, and not to supplant the original roster posted:
http://home.worldonline.dk/nyskes/bbowl ... cteams.doc

Cheers
Martin

atropabelladonna · Post by **atropabelladonna** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:08 pm

plasmoid wrote:Hi all,
Bouf said:
>Atropabelladonna is right that it’s just a revamped CDwarf roster.

Coincidentally, I've created a beastman team which was actually supposed to be a revamped chaos dwarf team. Playtest so far shows that it is a solid team (like chaos dwarfs) but not unbalanced, as far as I can tell from the feedback.

You can see it here - purely for your inspiration, and not to supplant the original roster posted:
http://home.worldonline.dk/nyskes/bbowl ... cteams.doc

Cheers
Martin

No denying it is a decent team, its just gors instead of chaos dwarves with a slightly different bull centuar. I would still say its weaker than a chaos dwarf team. If that is what you are looking for, which is not a bad thing. Lots of new team proposals are way out to lunch (just look at the SG boards). Its better to err on the side of caution.

Patchwork · Post by **Patchwork** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:26 pm

bouf wrote:What do you think? In one step you could have a Khorne roster and a Beast roster…

I don't know if I like the idea of trying to make it the beastman and the khorne team. Gives it the chance of not really being what someone wanting a beastman team wants or what someone wanting a khrone team wants. I'd stick with just making it fit the concept of a beastman team.

Habitus · Post by **Habitus** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:16 pm

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0-16   50,000   Gors        6  3  3  8  GS/APM   Horns
0-2    100,000  Slaangors   6  3  4  9  GSM/AP   Horns, Tentacles
0-2    100,000  Tzaangors   6  3  3  9  GSM/AP   Horns, Two Heads, Extra Arms, Very Long Legs
0-2    100,000  Khornegors  6  3  3  9  GSM/AP   Horns, Frenzy, Claws
0-2    110,000  Centigors   8  3  3  8  GS/APM   Horns, Bone-Head, Frenzy, Sprint.
0-1    150,000  Minotaur    5  5  2  8  S/GAPM   (skills as LRB)
Rerolls: 70,000

Hows that, pretty much Gors are beastmen with M on double, then taken the special types of Bestigors (all with armor upgrade cause of better equipment) and tried to give them skills fitting their god, as descibed for a Beast of Chaos. Gives 8 Positionals in total, with similar skill access but every different starting skills.

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:26 am

Hi Habitus,
Step 1: simple trick: Calculate the cost of the 11 best players that the team can put on the field. That's a rough measure of team power. The majority of teams fall between 850K and 950K.
Yours is waaay off the mark.

Cheers
Martin