Block, Guard & Dodge modifications

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:01 pm

If Block moves, it needs to move out of the game. Still, if it reduces the amount of players with the skill I'm for it though you'd have to redesign the 2 rosters that start with it on most of their players too.

Why would Stunty coaches whine? It already takes a double where ever you put it aside from Agility. Elves probably should take Dodge instead from a fluff standpoint and it plays well too. Skaven will fill get kick and fould-happy skills and a hopefully a few mutations and stomp your blocky ass into the dirt.

Dark Lord (retired) · Post by **Dark Lord (retired)** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:19 pm

Because stunty coaches whine about everything.

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:47 pm

Ahh... I suppose they do. I guess I don't even hear it anymore.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:16 pm

Vomit Lickspittle wrote:Came up zilch on a search, but has anyone suggested making block a Strength skill? Keep it away from "generalists"?

Just a thought....

There was a misprint in the German rulebook that did that, and iirc, it made Dwarfs and Chaos the #1 teams (by quite a margin).

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:22 pm

Snew wrote:If... it reduces the amount of players with the skill I'm for it though you'd have to redesign the 2 rosters that start with it on most of their players too. ....

Right...!

Looking at the rosters, it would take easy access to block from:

Amazon all 'cept Blitzers

Chaos (Actually it wouldn't affect Chaos... 'cept give it a boost, vis-a-vis the other teams loosing ready access) Given the previous remark... maybe take away some of the S from Chaos?... or modify roster/price?

Chaos Dwarf Hobgoblins

Dark Elf (all) but with ready access to Dodge... big whoop....

Dwarf Runners (ditto Chaos remarks)

Elf (all) ditto remark on DEs

Goblin only affect is to boost Fanatic and Trolls

Halfling only affect is to boost Treemen

High Elf (all) ditto remarks on DEs

Human Line, Catcher and Throwers lose... Ogre gains

Khemri Skeletons and Throw-ras lose, Mummy gains

Lizardmen Skinks lose, Krox gains

Necromantic Zombies, Ghouls and Werewolves lose

Norse (meh, leave Block on them if you must.... Don't like uniform roster)

Nurgle Rotters lose, BON gains

Ogres (Ogres gain)

Orc Linemen and Throwers lose, Troll gains

Skaven Linerats, Thrower and Gutter Runners lose, Rat Ogre gains

Undead Skeletons, Zombies and Ghouls lose, Mummies gain

Vampire Thralls lose

Wood Elf (all) ditto remarks for DEs... Treemen gain (Why the 'elf do they need treemen anyway?!)

Prices could be modified, especially on Ogre-ish positionals and Mummies....

Dark Lord (retired) · Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:26 pm

I think if you removed it from those that start with it, or at least most of them it could work out. I think most blitzers should probably start with it but nobody else.

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:28 pm

Agreed, DL....

Dark Lord (retired) · Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:45 pm

And notice I said MOST blitzers, not all...I'm looking right at you, elves!!

Mad Jackal · Post by **Mad Jackal** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:50 pm

never-mind I missed all the replies before mine.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:51 pm

Vomit Lickspittle wrote:Lizardmen Skinks lose, Krox gains

Why would skinks lose? They could still take it on a double.
If anything, lizzies get a small boost from this change.

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:53 pm

Darkson wrote:
Vomit Lickspittle wrote:Lizardmen Skinks lose, Krox gains
Why would skinks lose? They could still take it on a double.
If anything, lizzies get a small boost from this change.

Missed/Mussed one... thanks for the correction....

stormmaster1 · Post by **stormmaster1** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:51 am

If you take away block, i think re-rolls may need a price drop. All those 1 in 9 chances of a turnover.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:42 am

Well its an interesting suggestion because now Wrestle is the G skill... so you cant protect yourself from going prone, but you can from the turnover and Av roll... The German misprint didn't have that. It would be interesting to see how it panned out.

One problem though is that BGs all have strength access so become too reliable again.

fen · Post by **fen** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:19 am

Dark Lord wrote:BUt I'm sure the elf, stunty and skaven coaches are about to make your ears bleed with their high pitch wailing.

I'm pretty sure the Stunty coaches would start cheering. Trolls, Treemen, Ogres and Fanatics with Block. Hello Tier 2!

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:32 pm

ianwilliams wrote:
One problem though is that BGs all have strength access so become too reliable again.

LOL! True dat. Funny huh?