Picking a team: Chaos or Nurgle Rotters

pyttroll · Post by **pyttroll** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:47 am

Hi all,

I'm about to start playing in a league and I need some advice on picking a team.
I'm looking into choosing a chaos or a nurgle team.
The league has teams that already completed up to 2 seasons.
For now, the teams in the league are: Orcs, Amazons, Dark Elves, Dwarves, Khemri.
I don't have a lot of experience (about 50 games).
I previously coached mainly Orc and humans and less than 10 games with a chaos team.
I will get the opportunity to train my team for maybe 5 matches before entering the league.

What would be your advice? What are the main differences between the 2 teams?

Thanks,

Pyt

juggler434 · Post by **juggler434** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:28 am

I don't have much experience playing with or against nurgle, but we had a coach in our last league who played chaos and actually did quite well. If you decide to got the chaos route, use your warriors as your ball carriers. A ST 4, AG 3 player is pretty hard to knock down, especially when they get block (he also rolled doubles and got dodge for one of his warriors first skills, turned into one of the most feared teams in the league.)

grampyseer · Post by **grampyseer** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:14 am

I think that nurgle are a bit more difficult to use. The beast is a really good piece, but there's less agility to work with in the team as a whole. As an inexperienced coach, you may find a chaos team to be a bit more "meat and potatos"

fen · Post by **fen** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:45 am

Nurgle are a much better team than Chaos. They're in truth not much slower as you have sufficient MA6 players to cover most jobs. But they have a better big guy, better Blockers and cheaper linemen.

The main differences between the teams:
Chaos are marginally faster, but not enough to make a massive difference
Chaos have 10K cheaper rerolls and cheaper players overall
Chaos Warriors develop faster than Nurgle Warriors as they can ball handle to get that first Star Player roll
Chaos Warriors are better at Blitzing than Nurgle ones
Chaos play a running game first and a grinding game second
Beastmen and Minotaurs die, a lot!

Nurgle Warriors are tougher and better at bashing than Chaos Warriors
Nurgle have cheaper linemen (which trumps the 10K Chaos reroll advantage).
Beast of Nurgle is about 3.2 billion times better than the Minotaur, it's the best big guy in the game imo.
Nurgle play a grinding game better than anything else in the game when developed.
Developed Nurgle is better than Developed Chaos
Lower Nurgle player turnover - the Rotters die a lot, but they're fodder and don't matter.
Disturbing Presense means Nurgle can defend against agile teams, Chaos just tend to conceed any passing TD against them

Overall they are both difficult teams to play as you'll have a limited number of rerolls to start with, Chaos is slightly easier and more forgiving if you screw up. But if the league runs more than 10 games Nurgle start to powerhouse and become amazing.

Hjelmen · Post by **Hjelmen** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:57 am

I started out in my new league with a Nurgle team. I hadn't played BB for years, but I've always been partial to Nurgle in the Wrahammer fluff, so it seemed like the way to go, even though I knew I'd be setting myself up for a full season of being on the bottom rung.

That said, Nurgle teams really need a dedicated coach to do well, and I've just begun to learn how to do well with them. My league match-record being 0-1-3 at the moment

The Beast of Nurgle is definatly the best defensive big guy in the game, and I don't regret starting out with it in the roster. He's even scored a freak TD!

Warriors are amazing, but are kinda hard to skill up (they only get SPP for cas usually). Just leave them evenly spaced out on the LoS to cover the mid-field with Disturbing Presence.

Pestigors are the stars of the team, and they do everything with gusto! Great blitzers and primary ball-handlers.

Buy some rotters at the start if the season, and get new ones from killing opponents

I skilled up one with Claw, and will be getting one with Kick next.

As grampy said, you might find "ordinary" Chaos easier to play, since Nurgle really is a hard team to win with.
I love my Nurgle, and it was a fun fun team to convert and paint, but next season I'm probably taking a team that can actually win games

PubBowler · Post by **PubBowler** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:00 am

Fen has it right.

Plus the models are cooler (unless you're using Lauth81's chaos team!).

Tarp · Post by **Tarp** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:01 pm

either team will lose 95% of the time against those other teams (they have what 10-15 games? under the belt)
I would take neighter in that league, a long league where you all start from scratch chaos and nurgle can be okay, not like this.

If you still play one of them, prepare to lose alot

pyttroll · Post by **pyttroll** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:50 pm

Thanks for the detailed answers, I now lean towards picking the nurgle rotters.

Tarp, which team woud you be using in such a league?

What is everybody else thinking? what are the best suited teams to join a league with advanced team?

Thanks.

Pyt

fen · Post by **fen** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:43 pm

Tarp wrote:either team will lose 95% of the time against those other teams (they have what 10-15 games? under the belt)
I would take neighter in that league, a long league where you all start from scratch chaos and nurgle can be okay, not like this.

If you still play one of them, prepare to lose alot

Hum, not true. The first season I played Chaos I took them against several TV180+ teams including Wood Elves, Humans, Orcs, Dwarfs, Dark Elves & High Elves. Thanks to the twin power houses of Borak and Ripper I lost only 1 game (Strip Ball Wardancers ftw) and ended up skilling up enough to win the playoffs and the Spike Trophy without the Stars. This started a 3 season winning spree and the same team took home the Chaos Cup and the BB Trophy.

Chaos teams are really good when you can Induce two Star Players with ST5 and 6. 6 ST4+ Players are pretty difficult for anyone to handle.

Craigtw · Post by **Craigtw** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:36 am

You should totally go with the Nurgle team! they are my favourite BB team, and I have a fair amount of experience playing them the LRB5.

In LRB4 the team was seriously lacking, but the new version is much better.

What I see as a major difference between the two teams, is that the Nurgle team is much better at disrupting plays than a regular chaos team. With all the disturbing presence, and the Tentacles of the beast, I have put to rest many an elfy and skaven plan to out agility me. With the Foul Appearance I have thwarted many a block, and with the pestigor's horns I have taken on larger opponents, and sent many a straggler crowd surfing!

The rotters are a great value for their money. For the cost of a goblin, you can get an slow human lineman who dies a little more easily. Not to mention the fact that if you manage to kill any of your opponents, you can get one for free.

The team has varitey and diversity and what I feel to be the best BG in Blood Bowl - the Beast of Nurgle! Not one to be stuck on the LOS during defense, the BoN needs to be left a little back and thereby be able to react to the flow of action and then get stuck in where it can make the most trouble.

All this and the wonderful converting opportunities that the Nurgle team preovides makes them the best team in my opinion! Let us know how they do!

ClayInfinity · Post by **ClayInfinity** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:53 am

Vote #1 Rotters!

Love the roster, will scare the bejesus out of agile teams and I think you can be a bit more flamboyant with your skill selections.

Also, the Rotters are great. You buy your initial 6 or so and then leave them. If you drop below 11 players, use journeymen and then you can use all your cash to maintain your positionals.

Soon you will have a BoN, 4 NW's and 4 Pestigors and will be able to fund replacements.

pyttroll · Post by **pyttroll** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:11 am

Well, Craig, I have to say that your post completely convinced me.

I'm definitely going to go with the rotters, I'm looking for a beast of Nurgle mini, any suggestions?

Thanks,

Pyt

juggler434 · Post by **juggler434** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:13 am

Beasts of Nurgle can be really fun to convert, since they can really look however you want, but if you want to buy a mini, the warhammer range has a beast of chaos that painted green makes a good Beast of Nurgle

Axtklinge · Post by **Axtklinge** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:43 am

I have play them both and had very good results on both.

After all thats been nsaid I'll only add that Nurgle convertions and painting are a blast, and can put very interesting looks on other player faces.
(Note to self: Must find time to take pics to Plague Titans players, and post them to ilustrate point.)

Cheers
Axt

Marlow · Post by **Marlow** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:21 pm

I agree in on open-ended league Nurgle are going to become the better team.

Choas teams have two advanatages AG3 Warriors so they skill up slighty faster being able to perform Ball Handling and Wild Animal on the Minotaur means he does not loose his TZ's once he has Tentacles on a failed roll.

Nurgle have 9 players with Regeneration as well as the extra Mutations to cause problems for the opponents.