Interception

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Ok have just played a game. Wood elves Vs Norse.

The wood elf thrower wanted to make a pass to a catcher that had a norse lineman in his tackle zone. The norse lineman was behind the catcher.

NC_______________T

T=Thrower, C=Catcher, N=Norse lineman

so from the letters above you can see what i am trying to say.
Is the norse lineman still able to make an iterception because he is in the catchers tackle zone or does he have to be in front of him? :-?

Help please as there was a difference of the understanding of the rules.

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The rules say that 4 things that are must be in place to intercept:


• have the plastic ruler pass over at least part of the square the
intercepting play is standing in, and ...
• have a tackle zone, and ...
• be closer to the thrower than the thrower is to the target
player/square of the pass, and ...
• be closer to the target player/square of the pass than the
thrower is to the target player/square of the pass.

Now although the first one is possibly true of the situation you describe & the 2nd & 3rd were, the last one was not met.

The player was not closer to the target than the thrower was.

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It is worded very badly. They should do picture's to show what they mean. :-?

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Post by PubBowler »

The trouble is with the range ruler.

It covers an area behind the thrower and also carries on beyond the target.

But yes, a diagram might be appropriate.

I should point out that in my edition of the rules, the passing rules direct you to the wrong page for the interception rules now.
Not sure if that's the same for everyone...

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Mine are ok, it tells you to go to page 22 and thats where the interception rules are. :)

After reading the rules about 5 times it is making sense but they do need to word this better, so if any of you guys who are doing LRB 6 this area of the rules should have picture's.

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be closer to the thrower than the thrower is to the target
That can't be true if the player is behind the target. So no interception.

basically must be between the thrower and target. Probably rules lawyers were saying the between means in a direct line.

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Post by Igor Tahavanale »

Don't read it all in one go and try to apply it, use it as a check list if you're not sure. Take each little bit on it's own. All of a sudden it becomes very clear. The wording was changed to make it so and to remove any bodges and claims of "backward" interceptions etc.

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To make it easier to understand, the interceptor has to be between the thrower and the catcher and within 1 square of the direct line the ball would travel. The passing template doesn't reach outside 1 square of each side of the throw.

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the easier thing is to allow any player who stands in the thrower or catcher TZ to intercept.
it is not against common sense (you may lay your hands on the ball stretching over opponent player, most likely if he is shorter than you) and may also raise the intercept ratio.

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naw, if you ever watch American football, if the defender is behind the catcher it's almost impossible to intercept it. At best, you either reach over and knock it down, or interfere with the receiver trying to catch it. (I know, I used to be a defensive back in a former life.) Which is what the -1 in the tackle zone would signify.

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It would help if the rules said you must be between the thrower and the catcher. If in doubt...

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whitetiger wrote:the easier thing is to allow any player who stands in the thrower or catcher TZ to intercept.
Which is why it was changed, it was never the intention of the rule and previous wordings allowed arguments along these lines. The TZs are accounted for, they apply -1 modifiers on to the respective pass/catch rolls.

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whitetiger wrote:naw, if you ever watch American football, if the defender is behind the catcher it's almost impossible to intercept it. At best, you either reach over and knock it down, or interfere with the receiver trying to catch it. (I know, I used to be a defensive back in a former life.) Which is what the -1 in the tackle zone would signify.
but you never played against Halflings, or Ogres... :wink:

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alternat wrote:but you never played against Halflings, or Ogres... :wink:
Oh, I am totally on board for height rules to be added to the game. I mean, the rules aren't complicated at all right now, and we should rectify that as soon as possible. I know, if you have a stunty standing behind a big guy, it should count as +3 strength on the block. The big guy will trip on the player behind them, three stooges like, and fall down.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Daefaroth wrote:
alternat wrote:but you never played against Halflings, or Ogres... :wink:
Oh, I am totally on board for height rules to be added to the game. I mean, the rules aren't complicated at all right now, and we should rectify that as soon as possible. I know, if you have a stunty standing behind a big guy, it should count as +3 strength on the block. The big guy will trip on the player behind them, three stooges like, and fall down.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
and injure the poor halfling in the process, I fear...

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