Wrong skill selection

Biggen79 · Post by **Biggen79** » Tue May 27, 2008 3:05 pm

Heya. Me and a friend of mine are running a BB league. A player is playing Khemri and we are about 8 games into the league ( only 6 players). For about 4 games ago he gave one of his Mummys Frenzy on a normal skill roll but neither me or my co - commish noticed it but of course now we have. My question is what do we do now?

Does he get to keep the skill even though we know it´s wrong and just put +10k on TV?

Do we replay the games he has had it in?

Just cope with the fact that we have missed it before and remove it now and let him get a normal skill instead?

Is it up to us commishes to decide or is there something written down i the rules about situations like this?

Stout Youngblood · Post by **Stout Youngblood** » Tue May 27, 2008 3:15 pm

As a commish, I would let it be and add the extra to his team value. Too late to do anything else. Can't punish the player since it was up to the commish to keep an eye on things.

Mootaz · Post by **Mootaz** » Tue May 27, 2008 3:56 pm

Let him keep it and add +10k to his TV. Mistakes happen, nothing to be done about now.

Cestodas · Post by **Cestodas** » Tue May 27, 2008 4:22 pm

Agree with letting him keep the skill now. But if you somehow wanna punish him for this, agree that the next time he rolls a double on a skill he must consider this a "normal" roll.

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:01 pm

Only two choices really make sense.

1) Keep the skill and add 10k to the team.

2) Make him change to a skill normally available.

In a really competitive league, I'd choose 1). After all, if three players have played against a Frenzy mummy, then the remaining players should also have to deal with it.

(If the league is ultra-competitive, dock his treasury a small amount for the oversight... no more than 50k.)

In a friendly league, either solution is OK. As a league commish, I'd always go with number 1, personally. At least on the first such offense.

fire olli · Post by **fire olli** » Tue May 27, 2008 8:39 pm

Same happened in our league. Let him have it and just and it to his TV.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:20 pm

If it's likely to be a mistake, I'd just up the TV, with a warning to be more careful with future skill choices.
If there's a chance it was a deliberate "mistake", I might take a harder line.

civilian_number_two · Post by **civilian_number_two** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:36 am

I'd say if he's sure he rolled a regular skill, he should drop it and take a regular skill. The harm is done in the games already played, but there's no sense in piling further mistakes on top of it.

There's only so much you should be blaming on the Commissioner. Coaches ought to know what's legal for their players. Also, if you take the opinion that it was up to the Commssioner to "catch" it, you're setting up a dangerous league dynamic, IMO.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:14 am

I had a similar situation in my league.

We just adjusted the team value and that was it. And made sure that all skill rolls and adjustments are done together with your opponent after each game.

Wylder · Post by **Wylder** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:34 am

Personally, I'd reverse it. Allowing a player to keep an illegal benefit just because no one caught them at it for a couple of games is a very dangerous precedent.

MVening · Post by **MVening** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:22 pm

Wylder wrote:Personally, I'd reverse it. Allowing a player to keep an illegal benefit just because no one caught them at it for a couple of games is a very dangerous precedent.

Or at the very least, adjust the cost as above, and mark the roster so that the next double rolled for any skill is treated as a normal skill (including any 5+5 or 6+6). While it's probable he didn't intend to make the mistake, a glitch like this needs some form of penalty to make others reconsider doing it intentionally.

Morgan Vening

Ren_Rew · Post by **Ren_Rew** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:35 am

That's what I'd do...

Let him keep it and adjust TV, then deny his next double.

We did reset our league once because of mistakes like this and the fun was gone. So just take the blame yourself and keep a closer look on advancements in the future.

SirMcNasty · Post by **SirMcNasty** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:03 am

I have to agree here with the majority. In our league we had a player who did this. We added +10 to his mummys cost, and told him the next time he rolled a dbl (including str, mv or armour raise) it would count as his frenzy.
It only became a probelem when another more unscrupulous player, started to give his players a dbl skill, then using the "Oh. I did not realise"
With him we just made him retire the player and docked money.

In all fairness though, Being my leagues commish, I do know it is difficult to keep track of everything going on. My advice to you is to tell your players to know there own teams. If they dont, why should they expect you too.