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just a few thoughts you more experianced may be able to help with.

1. if you throw a team mate and he goes down but is not injured can the player thrown (providing he has done nothing that turn) stand up and move?

2. who ever is writing lrb6 can we have spps back for fouls even if it is just one per casuelty?

3. does anyone else think the journymen rules needs balancing, we have a wood elf player in our league who is often having three or four and seems a bit unfair , maybe you should make a roll on fan factor and if you fail you have to pay (not full price). my thoughts being the more popular your team is the more likely players will want to play for you.but surely there would only be so many players going to a team that is taking a beating (player wise) every game for free?

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1) As long as he wasn't thrown with the ball it's not a turnover, thus he can get up and move.

3) Journeymen suck as players, I think loner balances them out nicely.

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and Journeyman somehow manage to soak up most of the MVP's anyways so they are either lost SPP or have to get bought anyways ;)

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wolfie 81 wrote: 1. if you throw a team mate and he goes down but is not injured can the player thrown (providing he has done nothing that turn) stand up and move?
Yes he can.
2. who ever is writing lrb6 can we have spps back for fouls even if it is just one per casuelty?
Sorry no ... this caused waaaayyy too many problems in 3rd edition leagues ... we (the BBRC) have no desire to return to this. If your league agrees ... its a fine house rule ... but its not becoming official.
3. does anyone else think the journymen rules needs balancing, we have a wood elf player in our league who is often having three or four and seems a bit unfair
Why do you think its unfair? He is paying full price for them in his TV for each game and is doing so to get players with Loner (which effects AG players much worse than ST players). In addition these players have decent odds of robbing his team of SPPs especially MVPs. So I'm not sure why it seems unfair to you.

Or to summarize ... no I don't think they need balancing, but I'm interested to hear why you do.

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ok might be wrong ,maybe its just because mine are zombies 4328 worth 40k and he gets lineman 7347 70k both for free, seems like advantage elves to me .

agree that loner and spps make things better when talking about larger numbers , but this applys to all journymen.

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wolfie 81 wrote:ok might be wrong ,maybe its just because mine are zombies 4328 worth 40k and he gets lineman 7347 70k both for free, seems like advantage elves to me .
They're not "free". Although you don't have to pay for them in gold, you still take the associated cost in TV, so your 3 zombie journeymen push up your TV by 12, whereas his 3 push his by 21. His players are better, so he "pays" more.

The journeymen rules are balanced and fine as they are, so much so that I imported them into a LRB4-based league.

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ok im gonna go hide in a dark corner somewhere :cry:

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Maybe you have journeymens without only having less then 11 players, then its wrong!

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With regards journeymen , I'm seeing and hearing a lot about elvish teams running journeymen and rostered positionals even when they have money to fill out their squad.

They then buy any journeyman who gets sufficient SPPs, like the MVP.

I'm don't think it's broken but it seems to go against the journeyman intention.

Anyone else noticing this?

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PubBowler wrote:With regards journeymen , I'm seeing and hearing a lot about elvish teams running journeymen and rostered positionals even when they have money to fill out their squad.

They then buy any journeyman who gets sufficient SPPs, like the MVP.

I'm don't think it's broken but it seems to go against the journeyman intention.

Anyone else noticing this?
Well usually they have lost a few players to initiate this. Unless they are firing players.....?

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frogbear wrote:
PubBowler wrote:With regards journeymen , I'm seeing and hearing a lot about elvish teams running journeymen and rostered positionals even when they have money to fill out their squad.

They then buy any journeyman who gets sufficient SPPs, like the MVP.

I'm don't think it's broken but it seems to go against the journeyman intention.

Anyone else noticing this?
Well usually they have lost a few players to initiate this. Unless they are firing players.....?
Generally the former.

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Not really thought about it much until now, but I think my league is intending to remove journeymen from the roll for MVP - is this too unfair? It would reduce the motivation to replace killed players and might even make some people deliberately fire others to increase the chances of the slow developers getting the mvp, right? I'm specifically thinking of my orcs where I could accelerate the BOBs' development.

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Master Wang wrote:Not really thought about it much until now, but I think my league is intending to remove journeymen from the roll for MVP - is this too unfair? It would reduce the motivation to replace killed players and might even make some people deliberately fire others to increase the chances of the slow developers getting the mvp, right? I'm specifically thinking of my orcs where I could accelerate the BOBs' development.
Yes, but I'd be thinking Lizards.

Skink journeymen are quite good with their skill reroll.
Saurus need the help.

I wouldn't risk the change.

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Hmm in that case Master Wang i would instantly Create an Orc team with 4 Black Orcs and 1 Troll and 6 Linos. After (or even before) game 1 I would retire all 6 Linos and get myself 6 Journeyman.
Gathering MVP's for a few games on the BOB's and Troll and replaced game by game slowly the Journeyman with Blitzers.... I might loose the first couple of games but the experience rate on those Troll/Black Orcs might be worth it.

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Will mention this to the commish when we next play. Cheers for the quick answers.

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