Stab and Injury rolls

Marlow · Post by **Marlow** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:05 am

That is the problem with Rules Lawyers, you end up having to write three sentences for each one you wanted.

Perhaps Zara should loose the STAB skill and the STAKES skill gets all the text of Stab included with the one changes instead of saying "unmodified Armour Roll" it says "Armour Roll, add one if the target is playing for Undead, Necro, etc Team".

I am glad to know that Stunty does not give a bonus as I thought "Unmodified" meant the attacker could not modify it.

stashman · Post by **stashman** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:35 pm

4) Stab (Extraordinary)
A player with this skill is armed with something very good at stabbing, slashing or hacking up an opponent, like sharp fangs or a trusty dagger. This
player may attack an opponent with their stabbing attack instead of throwing a block at them. Make an unmodified Armour roll for the victim. If the score
is less than or equal to the victim’s Armour value then the attack has no effect. If the score beats the victim’s Armour value then they have been
wounded and an unmodified Injury roll must be made(ignore modifiers from Niggling injuries as well.) If Stab is used as part of a Blitz Action, the player
cannot continue moving after using it. Casualties caused by a stabbing attack do not count for Star Player points.

Okey, help me out.

Does Stunty add +1 to injury rolls?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:39 pm

stashman wrote:Okey, help me out.

Does Stunty add +1 to injury rolls?

Did you bother to read the thread?

stashman · Post by **stashman** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:12 pm

Darkson wrote:
stashman wrote:Okey, help me out.

Does Stunty add +1 to injury rolls?
Did you bother to read the thread?

Yes I did and found out this

4) Stab (Extraordinary) - (LRB 5.0 page 47)
A player with this skill is armed with something very good at stabbing, slashing or hacking up an opponent, like sharp fangs or a trusty
dagger. This player may attack an opponent with their stabbing attack instead of throwing a block at them. Make an unmodified Armour
roll for the victim. If the score is less than or equal to the victim’s Armour value then the attack has no effect. If the score beats the
victim’s Armour value then they have been wounded and an Injury roll must be made. This Injury roll should ignore all modifiers from
any source - including Niggling injuries or Stunty. If Stab is used as part of a Blitz Action, the player cannot continue moving after using
it. Casualties caused by a stabbing attack do not count for Star Player points.

Sorry!

Ren_Rew · Post by **Ren_Rew** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:31 am

In my opinion, it is pure logic that stakes is working with stab and niggling / stunty don't.

Let's say, you're facing two guys. One is 6'2", 345lbs and the other is 4'10", 110lbs.

Blocking them:
You simply run over the tiny guy and crush him under your feet. You probably bounce off the big one and find yourself sitting on your rear end wondering what happened.

Stabbing them:
Size doesn't matter when you just stick a pointy piece of metal into someone. It f..cking hurts! No runnning over, no crushing, no bouncing off of somebody.

Stabbing with stakes:
It's like stab but the stakes are designed especially to be used against undead creatures by soaking them in holy water or whatever. Make a test: Go to some church and splash some holy water into your face. If it doesn't hurt you (And no, "Oh god, I got some in my eyes!" does not count!) then you probably get the idea why it only is used against undead players.

C'mon guys! A little more common sense and a little less lawyer attitude!

Just my two cents...

Rabid_Bogscum · Post by **Rabid_Bogscum** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:06 am

so can I use a team reroll on a stab

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:49 am

Rabid_Bogscum wrote:so can I use a team reroll on a stab

You know the answer is no you git ... no trying to shake the tiger cage just for fun!

(and if you really didn't know this ... sorry)....

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:50 am

Is it an armour roll? Can you use TRRs on armour rolls?

stashman · Post by **stashman** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:16 am

tenwit wrote:Is it an armour roll? Can you use TRRs on armour rolls?

Stabbing with Piling On

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:23 am

You cannot pile on with Stab because the Stab is not a block.

Tom

stashman · Post by **stashman** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:15 am

GalakStarscraper wrote:You cannot pile on with Stab because the Stab is not a block.

Tom

Now it was my turn to make some fun

landrover · Post by **landrover** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:31 pm

Guys,

FPS let go of the tiger's tail!

Rabid_Bogscum · Post by **Rabid_Bogscum** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:12 am

what about stab with jump up... do i have to make that agility roll to stab?

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:15 pm

Rabid_Bogscum wrote:what about stab with jump up... do i have to make that agility roll to stab?

Yes

Marlow · Post by **Marlow** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:41 am

I have had a scan of this topic and not seen the answer.

This may sound silly, but how does Stab interact with Thick Skull?

Is TS treating 8's as Stun a Modifier?