Horns + Dauntless, what comes first?

SirMcNasty · Post by **SirMcNasty** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:46 pm

So, our resident Chaos player (and MAP) has a beastman, who comes with horns. He has given him Dauntless and now has a 2 dice Blitz on any big guy by himself. My question is, when does dauntless come in as regards this.
We are using the sequence of:
Declare Blitz Roll Dauntless whilst making the Block part and then add +1 Str.
As no one else is using any Horns players (yet) We were wondering if this is the correct route.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:49 pm

LRB5 - Horns first, then Dauntless.

LRB4 and earlier (including original 3rd ed BB) - Dauntless first, then Horns.

Stout Youngblood · Post by **Stout Youngblood** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:33 pm

Darkson wrote:LRB5 - Horns first, then Dauntless.

Yep, stated right in the description for Dauntless on page 65 LRB 5:

LRB 5.0 wrote:The strength of both players is calculated before any defensive or offensive assists are added but after all other modifiers.

Daefaroth · Post by **Daefaroth** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:19 pm

Stout Youngblood wrote:
Darkson wrote:LRB5 - Horns first, then Dauntless.
Yep, stated right in the description for Dauntless on page 65 LRB 5:

LRB 5.0 wrote:The strength of both players is calculated before any defensive or offensive assists are added but after all other modifiers.

Still a valid combination though, horns will make the dauntless roll easier.

Craigtw · Post by **Craigtw** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:00 pm

Daefaroth wrote:
Stout Youngblood wrote:
Darkson wrote:LRB5 - Horns first, then Dauntless.
Yep, stated right in the description for Dauntless on page 65 LRB 5:

LRB 5.0 wrote:The strength of both players is calculated before any defensive or offensive assists are added but after all other modifiers.
Still a valid combination though, horns will make the dauntless roll easier.

And useful for when the horns cannot be used (i.e. on a block action or a blitz where the move is after the hit.

SirMcNasty · Post by **SirMcNasty** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:17 am

Thanks for the replies. After putting up this post we re read the skill description and also decided on that way around. But then our resident Chaos player hit us with yet another variant upon this. "So if i blitz with a horned player I am now str 4 yeah?"
"Yes" we replied
"So this one with break tackle can dodge on a 2 right!"

Mootaz · Post by **Mootaz** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:33 am

Reread the skill description. Horns adds the +1 STR only during a BLOCK. Not during the WHOLE Blitz action. So it has no effect while moving.