How does this combo work? DT+Shadowing

[GalakStarscraper]

y isn't the active player so no c can't shadow

Correct

[sumbloke]

So now you can shadow a Frenzy guy to assist the next block or keep him from blitzing his way into freedom.

Only if the Frenzy guy is from the other team and you're wanting a defensive assist. You can't shadow your own Frenzy guy.

[Pandur]

Shadowing: The player may use this skill when a player performing an Action on the opposing team moves out of any of his tackle zones for any reason.

Diving Tackle: The player may use this skill after an opposing player attempts to dodge out of any of his tackle zones.

Page 8: In order to leave a square that is in one or more opposing tackle zones, a player must dodge out of the square.

The attempt to dodge happens first. You don't actually move into the square you are dodging to until after the Dodge roll.

So order of operations is this:
1) Dodge roll is made to attempt to dodge
2) Diving Tackle can now be used on this roll
3) If Dodge roll is successful than he moves out of the tackle zone
4) At this point the trigger for Shadowing occurs and the player if still standing can use Shadowing.

Hello im new here,
mmh when a player use DT, is he not Prone? and a Player who is Prone has no TZ. And no TZ = no Shadowing?
Greetings from Germany
Pandur

[alternat]

The attempt to dodge happens first. You don't actually move into the square you are dodging to until after the Dodge roll.

that could be arguable, since you move and then roll to see whether you stand or not and you always fall into the square you are moving to.

[DDogwood]

The attempt to dodge happens first. You don't actually move into the square you are dodging to until after the Dodge roll.

You normally move into the square you are dodging to regardless of whether your dodge roll succeeds or fails, so I would say that you actually leave the TZ, THEN dodge.

[tenwit]

alternat/DDogwood: those quotes were from Galak, Pandur just quoted him without quote tags. And Galak quoted why the dodge attempt happens first (see previous page), you do dodge then leave TZs, not the other way around.

Pandur: Yes, once DT is used you're prone and can't shadow. But you use DT after seeing the die roll, so if the dodge roll is (e.g.) 6, you just don't use DT, and do use Shadowing, since you're not prone.

[Pandur]

Thank you tenwit.
That is what i needed to know. I dont knew that DT is after the dodge Roll.

[Grumbledook]

all mods that affect rolls like that can be done after seeing the roll