tournament play: doubles on break tackle bull centaur

El Hombre · Post by **El Hombre** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:54 pm

Yes, I'm in the middle of a tourney (Brass Bowl in Ostend), and my bull centaur is to receive a doubles skill. He already has Break Tackle. As for the moment, I'm going with dodge.

rest of the team:
6 dwarves - 3 have guard
1 bull break tackle
1 bull sure hands
1 mino - nothing
3 hobgobs - nothing
2 RR and a cheerleader.

any better ideas than dodge?

Yours,
El Hombre

Smeborg · Post by **Smeborg** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:58 pm

Dodge is hard to beat as you have only 2 Team Re-rolls. It also gives a degree of protection.

To be honest, I can't think of any other good doubles skill (just read down the Agility skill list - it is likely to come from there).

I think it's mainly Dodge vs. a normal skill (such as Wrestle).

Unless you want to contemplate Leader... (but this seems a waste on a playmaker).

If you are playing the new (draft LRB6) rules, then I guess Diving Catch might be an outside choice (to create a fast/strong/dodgy receiver). But you have AG3 Hobgoblins to do this already.

Hope this helps.

El Hombre · Post by **El Hombre** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:19 am

dodge it will be! Thanks for the reply

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:28 pm

Since you already have BT and this is a tournament, Dodge is your best bet IMO. Especially with only 2 rrs

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:34 pm

block ;o

TeamTræls · Post by **TeamTræls** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:48 pm

Dodge is good. I like skills which let you re-roll things, as this lets you reserve your team re-rolls for stuff like blocking, which I re-roll surprisingly often. Sometimes you just need that player down or whatever. In addition, if player A can re-roll the dodge/pass/catch by himself, you can save the team re-rolls for the less skilled player B when he needs a helping hand.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:10 pm

Grumbledook wrote:block ;o

It is tempting. A Block/BT bull is pretty much a complete player.

Dodge/BT does offer the threat of crazy dodging into TZs though.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:27 pm

block means less rerolling of blocks/blitzes

it also means you are more likely to take down players you are hitting (assuming they don't have block)

no point getting there if you can't take them down after

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:47 pm

Is this a block heavy tournament? If so, choose Dodge. If not, choose Block!

El Hombre · Post by **El Hombre** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:42 pm

I went with dodge, and it came out OK in the end. Did some things I couldn't have done without dodge, but could have used block as well. Overall, since this was my first tourney with chaos dwarves, I learned that break tackle really is a must on the bulls. (without they are only rather expensive black orcs...)

Yours,
El Hombre

Smeborg · Post by **Smeborg** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:19 pm

You're right - Break Tackle is the definitive skill on Bull Centaurs.

You should take it as a first skill in preference to a doubles roll.

I once rolled a 12 in a tournament and took the +1ST. I regretted the decision - Break Tackle would have been better. In a tournament, therefore, I would decline rolls of doubles, 10 and 12, but would take an 11 (+1AG) to create an excellent Runner.

Once upon a time I had (in a league) a Bull Centaur who got +2 AG for his first 2 rolls. Undoubtedly the best player I ever had. The other BC had Break Tackle, Dodge. Destroyed the league, though - no-one would play against them.

Cheers

Decker_cky · Post by **Decker_cky** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:28 am

Smeborg....I had a similar setup once with an AG4 bull centaur supported by a MV7, AG3 blodge bull. Bull to bull passing plays are a beautiful thing.

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:26 am

In leagues I typically give my first bull block and my second break tackle... But I will prioritize giving bulls touchdowns over winning for the first 5 or 6 games... having Block and Break Tackle on both of them (or AG 3!) is key.

I once turned down +AG on a bull for his first advance. DUMB DUMB DUMB... But then again, he died the next game from a mummy block, where the mummy stood up, went for it twice and got a single die hit. Then the apoth failed... I suppose it didn't really matter

Decker_cky · Post by **Decker_cky** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:15 am

How could that not have mattered? It was obviously Nuffle punishing you for turning down his gift. In the future, you can avoid those short lifespans with some proper decision-making.

Smeborg · Post by **Smeborg** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:19 am

Decker is correct.

If you make a wrong decision of this magnitude, Nuffle will punish you.

Cheers