What way to take my Chaos Dwarfs

Want to know how to beat your opponents, then get advice, or give advice here.

Moderators: Valen, TFF Mods

User avatar
MistWraith
Emerging Star
Emerging Star
Posts: 501
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 11:59 pm
Location: Springfield, MO

What way to take my Chaos Dwarfs

Post by MistWraith »

I am taking
  • 6 Chaos dwarf Blokers
    5 Hobgoblins
    1 Bull Centaur
    3 rr's 5 FF and an apothacary
on my team.

Now, do I want to use hobgoblins as scorers or try to make the Bullcentaur into a scorer?

Do I pick up a minotaur to use as a saftey next, or anoter bull centaur?

Finaly and most importandly, anyone got some good names for my evil, short, currly bearded varmits and/or a good chaos dwarf fluff web site?

Thanks.

Reason: ''
User avatar
Darkson
Da Spammer
Posts: 24047
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:04 pm
Location: The frozen ruins of Felstad
Contact:

Post by Darkson »

I've only played 3 1/2 games with CD's, but I think you will probably end up with HG's scoring more, just because it easier for them to get the ball than the BC's.

Try to get Block ASAP for the BC, Sure Hands should be an early skill for a HG.

I'd go with the 2nd BC before the Mino, just for the fact he's a roster player, so can use RR's.

Or you can ignore a CD rookie's advice :D

Reason: ''
Currently an ex-Blood Bowl coach, most likely to be found dying to Armoured Skeletons in the frozen ruins of Felstad, or bleeding into the arena sands of Rome or burning rubber for Mars' entertainment.
User avatar
Maedhros
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 17
Joined: Thu Nov 28, 2002 7:24 pm

Post by Maedhros »

I'm pretty new to the game so my advice probably isn't so great, but I would go for the second BC first. I'm having the same problem, trying to score with non-hobgoblin players is tough. I think you should groom one Hobo to be a scorer. But wheneber you have the chance and have a re-roll to burn try to score with the other guys for the SPPs.

I've always thought a Troll was a better choice than a Minotaur. Minotaurs can only play as safeties because of WA and aren't so useful on offense. Trolls are useful on both sides of the ball. Plus I always use my blitz action of Bull Centaurs so a Minotaur just seems wasteful.

Anyways, good luck, Chaoi Dwarves are such a cool team to play. The thought of an evil dwarf with a big hat just cracks me up.

Reason: ''
Member of the Hamilton Blood Bowl League - www.geocities.com/hbloodbowl
Snew
Legend
Legend
Posts: 6757
Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:55 pm
Location: Retired from TBB

Post by Snew »

This is one of those teams you just have to do what you think is right. I'd definately stay away from the Wild Animal until I had 15 other players on the roster. I'd also start with both Bulls and put them on scoring duty, but, then again, I wouldn't have less than 4 RRs to start.

Reason: ''
Have fun!
User avatar
TiMuN
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Posts: 1264
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2001 2:07 pm
Location: Madrid, Spain
Contact:

Post by TiMuN »

Thats a good starting Cockerel for Chaos Dwarves ...
Darkson wrote:I'd go with the 2nd BC before the Mino, just for the fact he's a roster player, so can use RR's.
Yes, take another BCentaur before the Mino. Not only you can't use RR with him, but the Wild Animal trait would make you lose some turns too!

Drop that Apoth ... your hobbos are way too cheap, and your dwarves are quite tough on a starting league. Pick another hobbo and a FF.

Try to make the BCentaur to score every once in a while, and as Darkson said, pick Block as his first skill. Best thing would be to follow Hthark pace, and pick Break Tackle on doubles.

Hope that helps. If you want to see some CD names ... click the link on my signature ... The KaragDron Lightning

Reason: ''
[b]TiMuN[/b]
[size=75][img]http://www.bloodbowl.net/NAF/ArticleImages/naf.gif[/img] Member #181
[url=http://www.bloodbowlforo.org]BloodBowlForo.org[/url] | [url=http://spanishteam.tbbl.org]Spanish Team[/url][/size]
shlominus
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 40
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2002 11:03 pm
Contact:

Post by shlominus »

this is what i did:

starting lineup:
2 bull centaurs
1 troll
3 chaos dwarves
6 hobgobbos
ff9
rr2

buy your apo after game 1. use the hobbos for scoring, except when you get a touchback, then give the ball to a bull. after the apo get more dwarves, then a few rerolls (if you like). i think most skills come naturally to this team. dwarves get guard first, mb isn´t that important. hobbos take block, sure hands or dirty player, but don´t forget to give one hobbo kick (a great skill). bulls are a different matter, st4 + great movement are great assets and they can be used for different things. my first bull skill was strip ball, cause it puts pressure on the opponent. when i rolled the first skill for my other bull, i got a double and took frenzy, just for fun (like when i blitz his players out of bounds :evil: ). first double on a dwarf was leader (for the troll mostly), hobbos would get a passing skill (dump off most likely, but i haven´t been lucky enough yet).

whoa, that turned into along post.
anyway, with this strategy i have been undefeated in 6 league matches, drawing only 1 and winning 5. so even if it looks a bit unorthodox, you might want to give it a try.

you can check out the whole roster under...
http://www.bbaa.org/
which is my local league. the earthshakers are my team. obviously :roll: .

Reason: ''
[url=http://carshownet.com]wheels[/url]
User avatar
franck_le_grand
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 226
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2002 5:09 pm
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

Post by franck_le_grand »

I'd go for the second BC. I'm going to start a CD team soon... I played them once but I feel that I should give them another go...

And when I start the team I'm going to give my BC:
sure hands, block, break tackle, stand firm or dodge on a double.
What I'd love to see the most is a AG+ or a ST+ that'll be great!

Reason: ''
User avatar
Kamikaze Rudy
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 168
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Post by Kamikaze Rudy »

My CD team has a Sure Hands, Accurate Hobbo...He throws it to the Bull Centaurs mostly. But any player that is position on my team will score. I'll score with my Niggling Dirty Player if it's a sure thing. I don't care where the TD's come from. I kind of like my team to fight for them.

I started with...and I always start with:
6CD's
6 Hobbos
1 BC
3RR
6FF

First Purchase is always the Apoth...then Hobbos, then BC, then 4th RR. I don't bother with the Troll or Minotaur. The Skaven can handle losing a turn here or there because of an errant Wild Animal block. The CD's don't have the movement to keep up with a team that has just rolled them because they had a turnover on the first move of their turn. Plus, I like to have at least 3 Hobbos on the pitch at any given time.

Right now the Jaegruund Ironfire is 7-2 with a full roster and 4 RR's & 11FF

Reason: ''
Tim
Da Tulip Champ II
Posts: 3458
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2002 4:18 pm
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
Contact:

Post by Tim »

Hi i started my Chaos dwarf this way lately:

1 BC
6 CD
5 HGs

4 RRs
5 FF

The 4 RRs really make a difference. I've won the first two games (Orcs and Humies rookie coaches, but quite well playing) 3-1 (2-0 CAS) each.
In the first game the BC scored twice, the other TDs shared between HGs.
Apo was the first buy after game one.

I'm still wondering if i should get a Troll now (120k treasury) or a second BC after next game.

Reason: ''
User avatar
MistWraith
Emerging Star
Emerging Star
Posts: 501
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 11:59 pm
Location: Springfield, MO

Post by MistWraith »

I will not be droping the Apothicary under any condition!

That is just asking for an expencive player to die on the first game. Then I will not only be down a player, but still need to buy the apothicary. No thanks, been there, done that.

Reason: ''
User avatar
Korhil
Experienced
Experienced
Posts: 117
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2002 3:02 am
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Post by Korhil »

Its not worth buying an Apoth just to save a death in the first game.
If you worry about the odds of a death, the odds of the Apothecary failing should worry you as well.

Theres better stuff to buy with 50K than an Apoth.

---Korhil

Reason: ''
User avatar
MistWraith
Emerging Star
Emerging Star
Posts: 501
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 11:59 pm
Location: Springfield, MO

Post by MistWraith »

I disagree, it is the best 50k you can spend.

Having an expencive player die in the first match, is not that unheard of, let alone a major injury. Spending the money now is better than spending it, plus the cost of a new player, later. With most of my players over the 50k mark, it is foolish to take the risk. If all I had to worry about was a gobbolin dieing, then I might consider it.

The last time I wnt without an apothicary, I went for it with a dark elf blitzer, to score and win the game, when he failed it fell on his back and died. This will not happen to me another time. I will always have an apothicary, I would rather be down the extra hobgoblin than risk the bullcentaur dieing.

Anyway, enough of that. I think I will be getting the extra BC first. Then a minotaur, bcaue I have a realy nice model for it, next. Then I will fill out on gobbos.

I am going to try and get the BC I start with into a scorer, the other one will be get strip ball and mighty blow.

Of corse on doubles everyone will get dodge first. Guard first for the CD's then mighty blow.

I will sperad out the skills on the gobbos, just to see what works with them.

The minotaur is there to look mean, and eat the ocasional elf or skaven that tries to get through.

Thanks for all your advice, and happy gaming.

Reason: ''
shlominus
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 40
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2002 11:03 pm
Contact:

Post by shlominus »

happy gaming to you too! 8)

even though i disagree with most of your choices :wink: , i still think you did the right thing. chaos dwarves (or any team, but chaos dwarves more than most) should be played the way you like them.

good luck and go bash those elves!

Reason: ''
[url=http://carshownet.com]wheels[/url]
User avatar
Darkson
Da Spammer
Posts: 24047
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:04 pm
Location: The frozen ruins of Felstad
Contact:

Post by Darkson »

I have to say, I wish I had brought a Apoth when I started my CD's. 1st game, a couple of BH Hobgobs. No big deal I thought. Then BLAM, on Dead CD. All the money I made from the opening gate was spent on replacing him (and he was the only CD that had SPP's :cry: )

Reason: ''
Currently an ex-Blood Bowl coach, most likely to be found dying to Armoured Skeletons in the frozen ruins of Felstad, or bleeding into the arena sands of Rome or burning rubber for Mars' entertainment.
User avatar
kaboom
Super Star
Super Star
Posts: 804
Joined: Wed Dec 11, 2002 4:50 pm
Location: across manga's road

Post by kaboom »

i think its a good team:good choice

Reason: ''
Post Reply