Norse Lineman skill?

elhion · Post by **elhion** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:12 pm

A quick question fom the experienced norse players of this wonderfull forum.

My gaming group has a small tournament running between 6 teams. I have a Norse team with the following roster:

Linemen * 7
Bersekers * 2
Runners * 2
Thrower
Ulfwerener
Apotheco

Having played 3 games so far, one of my linemen has reached to the point of 6 SPP and 2 others will soon follow by the looks of it.

What is the best skill (the most all around) for a Lineman? I have rolled 10 so I can probobly go for a +1AV but should I overlook tackle or pro?

The rest of the league has Dwarves/Orcs/Lizardmen/Goblins and Halflings!

Thank you in advance people for your proposals!

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:18 pm

Take the AV.

There are no great skills for Norse Linemen. You'd want a few Tackle and a Kick eventually, but you'll have plenty of chances to take that on the players who aren't lucky enough to roll 10!

Joe

Post by **voyagers_uk** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:20 pm

I would normally say take the Movement. and this is no different.

you need more MA7 players.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:20 pm

When you say a 10, do you mean 6+4 or a 5+5? If it's a double, take Guard.

elhion · Post by **elhion** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:25 pm

It was a 6+4, in the other case, I would take guard with no further question!

It actully makes sense to skip the skill and go for the extra movement or AV. But what is the best, what would most of you choose? And also for the other linemen who will sooner or later collect 6 SPP what is the best 1st skill?

Aliboon · Post by **Aliboon** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:40 pm

In that league, dauntless to strength up to the Sauri and Borcs and tackle if you want to beat up more on the gobbos, 'flings and skinks would be the 2 skills i'd take the most on the linos.

I prefer MA to AV on the 10, but its a personal choice.

mattgslater · Post by **mattgslater** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:14 pm

MA! MA7 vs. MA6 is night and day! First skill for first lino on a normal roll is Kick; after that, Fend or Tackle, with Pro as a generic #2-3 selection after Kick or Fend and probably Tackle. First double on first lineman is Guard, but IMO the second one to double should get Grab, except on a Fend or Guard player, who should consider Dodge or Side Step. After that, Guard on doubles.

purdindas · Post by **purdindas** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:08 pm

Av7 - Av 8 is also like night and day. IT's definetely a preference thing but I think I'd take the + Av. This makes him more solid and dependable on the field.

mattgslater · Post by **mattgslater** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:02 pm

I just shudder at the thought of giving a guy a 60% TV increase to make him 33% less likely to get hurt.

mubo · Post by **mubo** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:09 pm

In a choice between a blocking skaven lineman, and a blocking human lineman. I'd take the human.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:22 pm

mattgslater wrote:I just shudder at the thought of giving a guy a 60% TV increase to make him 33% less likely to get hurt.

On any team but Norse, I agree. But Norse have one major problem ... getting hurt.

mattgslater · Post by **mattgslater** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:11 pm

Two major problems: getting hurt and not turning the game over fast enough to account for KOs. This guy could reduce your team's chance of suffering a casualty on any given block by 3% (1/3 of 1/11 = 1/33 = 3%), or he could increase your team's chance of scoring when your guys get knocked out by some indefinite number. Never mind that one of those earns you SPP while the other one keeps SPP off the opponent's board, which is not nearly as valuable.

Across a team? AV8! On one guy? MA7!

Craigtw · Post by **Craigtw** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:29 pm

While can appreciate the difference between AV7 and AV8, I would have to agree that +MA would be my preference.

Having that extra point of movement now means that the player could possibly score in two turns without having to make a GFI - 'cuz everyone knows that the grass is longer and more slippery in the endzones!

Carnis · Post by **Carnis** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:12 pm

+AV! This cannot be expressed enough.

Movement is irrelevant on player who is likely to be bogged down blocking or assisting blocks. Also, you have runners who are faster anyway.

Norse linemen have rare useful skills beyond tackle, kick, fend and guard doubles.

Craigtw · Post by **Craigtw** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:23 pm

Carnis wrote: Movement is irrelevant on player who is likely to be bogged down blocking or assisting blocks. Also, you have runners who are faster anyway.

Movement is never irrelevant. Even on a Saurus with AG1 it is very useful to be able to get where you are needed, etc. If you are bogged down, then a norse lineman has a decent chance of dodging away, or getting someone to block or blitz to remove the TZs.

I am probably more in favour of AV than some of the other people on here, but disagree with your argument.