Skaven vs Lizzies - 500k in Inducements To Spend

[Olaf the Stout]

Ok, I've got my first league game coming up and this will be my first experience in using inducements. I'm relatively experienced at Blood Bowl but all my previous experience is either in Ressurection tournaments or pre-LRB5.

I'm playing a brand new Skaven team (albeit one that started with 1.1m to spend + 5 FF) vs a 1.65 TV Lizardman team.

Being new to the whole inducement thing I thought I would ask what people though was the best way to spend my hard earned inducement funds.

I was thinking:

Wizard - 150k
Fezglitch - 100k
Bribe - 100k
Wandering Apo - 100k
Bloodwiser Babe - 50k
Total - 500k

Another possible option I just thought of is:

Wizard - 150k
Hakflem Skuttlespike - 200k
Wandering Apo - 100k
Bloodwiser Babe - 50k
Total - 500k

Any other suggestions?

Olaf the Stout

[Ullis]

Wizard 150k
Glart Smashrip Jr. 210k
2 babes 100k

You can afford my favourite inducements with 500k. With 2 babes and Glart as a 12th player you should be able to hold up numbers. Glart brings much needed muscle and Claws against the big lizards and he even has Block so he's very reliable in the bashing game. The wizard is not such good value against lizardmen in general, but just the presence of the wizard combined with your speed will mean that the opponent's options are limited. He'll have to resort to big cages or then score quickly on offence. Both should play to your advantage. Overall, the ST4 Claws and the wizard should make your opponent nervous, which could lead to him making mistakes such as overcommitting against Glart.

I don't think Fezglitch will be much good against lizardmen. They can whack him down, avoid him altogether and on offence I expect that your own stalling opportunities will be limited so you'll have to score quickly. Hakflem is a good player and his Prehensile Tail could be very nice against the skinks but I don't think he'll pull his weight against lizzies.

[Olaf the Stout]

To add a bit more detail, his team is:

Kroxigor with Block
4 x Saurus with Block
2 x Saurus (no skills)
Skink with AG4 and Catch
Skink with Side Step and Sprint
Skink with Side Step and Block
Skink with Jump Up and Block
Skink with Accurate
Skink with Sprint
3 Re-Rolls
1 x Apo
1 x Cheerleader
1 x Assistant Coach

So a fair few doubles there but no Sure Hands or Break Tackle. A lot of Block though, which is bad news for trying to man up those Saurus to stop them from moving. On the plus side only the Krox has Mighty Blow and there is no tackle to deal with the Gutter Runners, of which I will have 4.

Olaf the Stout

[Greyhound]

as posted elsewhere

1 halfling chef => Lizzards with no sure hands, silly skills requiring rerolls (sprint) and only 3 rerolls = fail
1 wizard => just in case he gets lucky
1 mayhem card, to keep him on his toes, The whole deck is directly anti lizzies.

If you roll 2+ RR denial he plays with 1 tiny single RR... you should win this game.

[Ullis]

1 halfling chef => Lizzards with no sure hands, silly skills requiring rerolls (sprint) and only 3 rerolls = fail
1 wizard => just in case he gets lucky
1 mayhem card, to keep him on his toes, The whole deck is directly anti lizzies.

If you roll 2+ RR denial he plays with 1 tiny single RR... you should win this game.

The other team has enough Block to limit the need for rerolls a lot. 3+ for ball handling is ok. Plus he has an assistant coach and a cheerleader and probably more FF as well so he's likely to win possible rerolls from the kick off table. So the chef might work but I think the rewards are too uncertain given what else you could get with 300k inducements.

The fact that he doesn't have any side stepping diving tacklers is great.

Just as an alternative, you could go:

1 bribe 100k
1 babe 50k
Headsplitter 340k

Headsplitter is high risk since he doesn't have Block, but having a ST6 frenzied rat running around the pitch is great. If you can get him eating skinks, then awesome, but he's also very easily tied in a blocking game with sauri. He also has Prehensile Tail which is great against the skinks. The bribe is for fouling skinks, which is great since they're Stunty, but you'll probably be hard pressed to get assists to guarantee an armour break. And babes is just too good value for skaven to pass up on.

[Rhyoth]

I think Glart Smashrip Jr and/or Skiter Stab-Stab could be very valuable in this match-up : so why not take them both ?
Thus, with 370 k spent, you still have 180 k to work around for :
_ a wizard
or
_ a babe and a bribe
or
_ a babe and 2 cards
or
_ a babe and a Merc lino with a skill (Tackle ?), if you really don't like to have 30 k inducements remaining

[Olaf the Stout]

I think Glart Smashrip Jr and/or Skiter Stab-Stab could be very valuable in this match-up : so why not take them both ?
Thus, with 370 k spent, you still have 180 k to work around for :
_ a wizard
or
_ a babe and a bribe
or
_ a babe and 2 cards
or
_ a babe and a Merc lino with a skill (Tackle ?), if you really don't like to have 30 k inducements remaining

I like your thinking but your maths is a little off. I only have 500k in inducements, not 550k.

At the moment I am leaning towards:

Glart Smashrip Jr- 210k
Skritter Stab Stab - 160k
Mercenary Lino with Tackle - 130k

or

Glart Smashrip Jr- 210k
Skritter Stab Stab - 160k
Bloodwiser Babe - 50k
50k card

Thoughts? I'm playing tomorrow night for those that are interested.

Olaf the Stout

[Smeborg]

I agree with the idea of taking both Glart and Skitter. They are both excellent, the one against Saurus, and the other against Skinks. Both will mess with your opponent's head rather nicely.

[Rhyoth]

I think Glart Smashrip Jr and/or Skiter Stab-Stab could be very valuable in this match-up : so why not take them both ?
Thus, with 370 k spent, you still have 180 k to work around for :
_ a wizard
or
_ a babe and a bribe
or
_ a babe and 2 cards
or
_ a babe and a Merc lino with a skill (Tackle ?), if you really don't like to have 30 k inducements remaining

I like your thinking but your maths is a little off. I only have 500k in inducements, not 550k.

At the moment I am leaning towards:

Glart Smashrip Jr- 210k
Skritter Stab Stab - 160k
Mercenary Lino with Tackle - 130k

or

Glart Smashrip Jr- 210k
Skritter Stab Stab - 160k
Bloodwiser Babe - 50k
50k card

Thoughts? I'm playing tomorrow night for those that are interested.

Olaf the Stout

Oops, i misrread the title again... sorry.
Regarding the linerat with Tackle, it could be difficult to make him profitable, if you already have 12 or more rats and/or a lot of positionnals.
In this case switching Tackle for either Wrestle or Dirty Player may be more effective.

Still, a babe plu a card (i tend to prefer Dirty Tricks) is a good deal in this match up.

[Rhyoth]

So, how did it goes, after all ?

[Smeborg]

Olaf - in my experience, Babes are very good value inducements in matches where you are taking 2 Stars (bearing in mind that since you cannot use the Apoth on Stars, Babes are all you can get to increase your chances of keeping them on the pitch).

All the best.

[Olaf the Stout]

So, how did it goes, after all ?

It was a big anti-climax in the end. My opponent was sick and forgot we had a game. In the end he couldn't reschedule the match so he forfeited.

Thanks for the help anyway guys. I was really looking forward to taking those 2 Stars out for a test drive too!

Olaf the Stout