Another piling on question.

coxaoxy · Post by **coxaoxy** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:25 am

Are you allowed, if you use piling on in a blitz, to stand up after the block if you have enough moves left?

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:53 am

You can, but Jump Up can only be used at the start of your action.

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:56 pm

Really.... is this official or an interpretation?

I've always believed that you couldn't stand up.

Dave

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:04 pm

I thought that, too. But after checking the rules, it does not say that piling on takes play at the end of your turn. It just takes play immediately after you threw your block. Alas, you can carry on moving after having paid 3MA for standing up if it's your blitz.

Another question I came up with:

Can you use piling on, receiving the AV roll modification and afterwards use mighty blow to modifiy the injury roll? I have not modifyed AV and injury twice, just once each and I use Mighty blow for an injury roll caused by a Block, as required?

Any ideas?

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:14 pm

narkotic wrote:Can you use piling on, receiving the AV roll modification and afterwards use mighty blow to modifiy the injury roll? I have not modifyed AV and injury twice, just once each and I use Mighty blow for an injury roll caused by a Block, as required?

Yes you can use MB to modify injury after using PO to modify armour. The same applies to Claw/RSF.

Dangerous Dave - well that's my interpretation. I can't see anything in the rules that says otherwise and can't remember any clarification stopping it.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:57 pm

I'm sure someone asked this before, and one of the Gurus came on and said "No", but damned if I can find the thread

Balrog · Post by **Balrog** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:55 pm

You cannot stand up after Piling On, it says so on pg 12 of the Living Rulebook.

I quote:
"Players that are knocked down or fall over for any reason should be placed face up on the field in the square they were in when they fell over. While prone the player loses his tackle zone and may do nothing except stand up at a cost of three squares of his movement when he next takes an action."

-Balrog

Munkey · Post by **Munkey** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:58 pm

That settles it then, although in true GW fashion the relevant rule is nowhere near the rule that is causing the query

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:42 am

I'm glad you found that. I was sure I'd seen something like it, but couldn't find it.

Obviously no where near the rules on standing up.

zeroalpha · Post by **zeroalpha** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 12:44 pm

Can i also ask regarding piling on, can it be used when both players are knocked over? i would assume no, as in the description it says that it is a controlled fall and it is tough to control a fall when someone else has hit you. But again, in the rule it doesn't specifically state that and i have had people use it to modify armor rolls against me when i have rolled the both down result on the block dice

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:46 pm

Clever try

but you have to use piling on AFTER the block, and when your player has been knocked down as well, he can not use a skill anymore.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:46 pm

zeroalpha wrote:Can i also ask regarding piling on, can it be used when both players are knocked over?

If you are knocked over yourself no - you don't have a choice about going down so don't get to PO.

If you aren't knocked down then yes.

Vitalis · Post by **Vitalis** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 4:11 am

zeroalpha wrote:Can i also ask regarding piling on, can it be used when both players are knocked over? i would assume no, as in the description it says that it is a controlled fall and it is tough to control a fall when someone else has hit you. But again, in the rule it doesn't specifically state that and i have had people use it to modify armor rolls against me when i have rolled the both down result on the block dice

Yes. You can use it when rolling both down.
The only time you cannot use PiOn is when you don't knock down the opponent.

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 8:42 am

Vitalis wrote

zeroalpha wrote:
Can i also ask regarding piling on, can it be used when both players are knocked over? i would assume no, as in the description it says that it is a controlled fall and it is tough to control a fall when someone else has hit you. But again, in the rule it doesn't specifically state that and i have had people use it to modify armor rolls against me when i have rolled the both down result on the block dice

Yes. You can use it when rolling both down.
The only time you cannot use PiOn is when you don't knock down the opponent.

No you can't use Piling On if you get a both down result and the Piling On player doesn't have Block.

Dave

Vitalis · Post by **Vitalis** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 11:27 am

Yes you can.

No you can't.

Yes you can.

No you can't.

Yes you can, yes you can, yes you caaaaan!

Somebody (rulz guruz!) PLEASE stop this intellectual debate!