BO or blitzer

joker · Post by **joker** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:18 am

hi all
i cant decide if i go

3 BO & 3 blitzer
or 4 BO & 2 blitzer

for my ork team, can anyone give me somes advices pz
thx

Asmodan · Post by **Asmodan** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:40 am

You should try to search first before you ask as there have had a lot of questions about orc teams the last month.

But just to be nice i have found someold threads about this, that i post here.
This one is about whats better to have of black orcs ors blitzers.
viewtopic.php?t=3870

Here you have suggestions to starting roster.
viewtopic.php?t=4004

Another orc thread.
viewtopic.php?t=3911

A third one.
viewtopic.php?t=4341

And there are more of them.

Asmodan

TiMuN · Post by **TiMuN** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 9:10 am

3 & 3 for he best. Too many BO makes orc team little too slow, and orc blitzers make nice ball carriers you'll need to .. ermm ... score! Make that 3 blitzers and a Thrower ... let those 3 BO at the line, they know how to handle!

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 9:31 am

I think you've probably got too low a FF or TRR, but if that's your choice I'd go 4-2 - the BOBs develop slowly so the earlier they are in the better.

Korhil · Post by **Korhil** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:44 am

If your going to start with 6 * 80K players... make it the 4-2 split.

2 Blitzers
4 Black Orcs
1 Thrower
2 LineOrcs
2 Goblin
3 RR
9 FF

Thats about the best way to fit the 4-2.

---Korhil

Mortalman · Post by **Mortalman** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:56 am

ianwilliams wrote:

the BOBs develop slowly so the earlier they are in the better.

So is it the general view that BOs should be taken earlier and Blitzers filled in ASAP? If so what should you do if you end up with a choice later on - eg a BO dies but you don't yet have 4 Blitzers. Should you replace the BO, or is another Blitzer more useful mid way through a league?

Sorry to go a bit off topic!

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:35 am

Korhil wrote:2 Blitzers
4 Black Orcs
1 Thrower
2 LineOrcs
2 Goblin
3 RR
9 FF

2 Gobbos and only 11 players.

I don't like that one bit. One of Orcs big strengths is resilience - so putting in soft targets doesn't help one bit.

Mortalman wrote:If so what should you do if you end up with a choice later on - eg a BO dies but you don't yet have 4 Blitzers.

It depends on your game plan. I wont always field 4 BOBs - especially if I've got a Troll/Ogre. If you don't have a Big Guy then getting all 4 BOBs on the team early will help in later development. In shorter leagues and tournaments I'd say blitzers are more useful.

So I'd say that if you know you've got 10 games left to play a BOB is a better purchase, but 5 games left a blitzer is.

One of the things about Orc teams is that Blitzers tend to score all the TDs so you have to be careful about spreading the SPPs around a bit.

zeroalpha · Post by **zeroalpha** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 12:00 pm

i know with orcs you can get away with starting with 11 players as you can deal a little damage out and absorb more with high orcish AV, but taking 2 gobbos in an 11 man team just to field 4 black orcs isn't the way to go. Deciding between black orcs or blitzers comes down to your style of play. but having 3 of each goes a long way to having great flexibility

joker · Post by **joker** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 12:38 pm

Asmodan wrote:You should try to search first before you ask as there have had a lot of questions about orc teams the last month.

yes i know this command but im not a expert in its use

Asmodan wrote:But just to be nice i have found someold threads about this, that i post here.
This one is about whats better to have of black orcs ors blitzers.
viewtopic.php?t=3870

this is the only answer thats match my question, thx

and im not asking what would be my starting roster becoz i know what it is

3bob
3blitzer
1trhower
4line
3rr
7ff

thx all

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:05 pm

Pardon the pun, but the Blitzing Corps are the core of any Orc team.
All 4. Always.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:27 pm

Seconded. 4 blitzers, all the way.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:33 pm

I don't think I'd argue that Blitzers are the key players in an Orc team, you could say the same thing about a lot of races, but for team development purposes BOBs need the games more than Blitzers do - and starter teams have a tougher time against S4 than developed ones anyway.

McSnaga · Post by **McSnaga** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 3:25 pm

True but many an early game is lost due to BO's ending turns prematurely due to rolling double skulls, double 'Block/skull' or 1 of each.

Blitzers give an orc team the speed it desperately needs.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 3:29 pm

I personally tend to believe that you don't need to concentrate your ST advantage in early games. I'd rather have the speed and block skill on my team and win some early matches. BOs can come in when they are needed to stand there and look pretty. er ugly, pretty ugly.

BOs do tend to develop slowly. Next time I play orcs I might look at starting a BO training program - force feeding them TDs.

ZanzerTem · Post by **ZanzerTem** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 4:58 pm

4 blitzers, can't go wrong there. I would be undefeated with my orcs but the damned Khemri caused 5 casualties (to my one) and won in OT