+AG on a Centaur?

RogueThirteen · Post by **RogueThirteen** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:02 pm

Started a Chaos Dwarf team, and the team's first (and only level-up) so far has been a Bull Centaur that rolled an AG+. I took the AG (with little hesitation), but just wanted to open the scenario up for some group discussion.

I know that running the ball with a Centaur is incredibly controversial, but I like it. His next two skills will be Break Tackle and Block (in that order), but being the primary ball-carrier on offense he should level much faster now than the typical centaur.

Glamdryn · Post by **Glamdryn** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:21 pm

Id take sure hands as his first skill.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:26 pm

RogueThirteen wrote:I know that running the ball with a Centaur is incredibly controversial,

Really? I thought it was a standard tactic, at least amongst the good players I've seen (I think I managed more TDs with my Mino

)?

Magictobe · Post by **Magictobe** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:14 pm

Why breack tackle? He already dodges on 3+ with the +AG!!!

Take sure hands first. Then block.

Jimmy Fantastic · Post by **Jimmy Fantastic** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:27 pm

Pretty standard to run the ball with a bull.
Give him Block, SH, BT and hope for a double for Dodge.
Get SH on a hobgob incase you are playing vs elves.

Eski · Post by **Eski** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:48 pm

dodging is for girls.. something get near him it would frenzy and block for me.. kick them out the way while u score a TD.. Frenzy as a third skill so it will make u skill up your other players..

Lunchab1es · Post by **Lunchab1es** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:15 am

Jimmy Fantastic wrote:Pretty standard to run the ball with a bull.
Give him Block, SH, BT and hope for a double for Dodge.
Get SH on a hobgob incase you are playing vs elves.

This. Don't wait until 32spp to get block... nuffle will kill him.

dines · Post by **dines** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:35 am

Jimmy Fantastic wrote:Pretty standard to run the ball with a bull.
Give him Block, SH, BT and hope for a double for Dodge.
Get SH on a hobgob incase you are playing vs elves.

Agree with skill development and with AG3, the bull is perfect for running with the ball, else I think it depends on the opponent whether I go for a bull or a hob.

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:23 pm

AG+1... I would, nice!

Just don't use him like a loon. What a back fielder, takes ball and delivers it to someone, nice.

Hitonagashi · Post by **Hitonagashi** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:00 pm

Smurf wrote:AG+1... I would, nice!

Just don't use him like a loon. What a back fielder, takes ball and delivers it to someone, nice.

Delivers it? You usually have 8 turns, the bull has movement 6(and sprint/sf). He picks it up, gets into a cage and grinds slowly down the pitch to score. Leaping elven wardancers are on -2d needing double pow +pow/push...don't get why he needs to handoff

RogueThirteen · Post by **RogueThirteen** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:35 pm

Yea, I was planning taking Block next and then Sure Hands and then Break Tackle.

Unless, of course, he wants to roll +AG again.

nick_nameless · Post by **nick_nameless** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:49 pm

Break Tackle is a little bit of a waste after a +AG, no?

spubbbba · Post by **spubbbba** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:03 pm

nick_nameless wrote:Break Tackle is a little bit of a waste after a +AG, no?

No, anyone who has played even a few games using the human team knows that 3+ rolls are the hardest to make in Bloodbowl.

Remember Break Tackle is optional so if he rolls a 3+ on the 1st dodge then he can still use BT on subsequent ones. Also dodging into a standard cage needs a 5+ which gives you a 20/36 shot with a re-roll rather than 11/36.

garion · Post by **garion** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:15 pm

Yeah I'm with jimmy block Sure Hands then break Tackle in that order.

Unless this is short TT league like 10 games. then I would probably go Sure Hands then BT, just to stop strip ball players messing you up to much.

RogueThirteen · Post by **RogueThirteen** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:53 pm

spubbbba wrote:
nick_nameless wrote:Break Tackle is a little bit of a waste after a +AG, no?
No, anyone who has played even a few games using the human team knows that 3+ rolls are the hardest to make in Bloodbowl.

Remember Break Tackle is optional so if he rolls a 3+ on the 1st dodge then he can still use BT on subsequent ones. Also dodging into a standard cage needs a 5+ which gives you a 20/36 shot with a re-roll rather than 11/36.

Exactly what I had in mind. Becomes a lot more mobile with that "2+ when needed" in his back pocket.

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