The Art of Fouling

Oventa · Post by **Oventa** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:10 pm

You could also take Thick skull into account in your graph

See also e.g. Here the stats btw.
http://www.thenaf.net/index.php?module= ... &pageid=28

dode74 · Post by **dode74** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:24 pm

And stunty...

It starts getting complex then

Nice link, though. Not seen that one before.

Shteve0 · Post by **Shteve0** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:35 pm

Assuming you have the spreadsheet - could you also do a cumulative p value chart please? What I'd find really useful is an at-a-glance reference sheet for p(sentoff) vs [p(stun)+p(ko)+p(chart)], for example. Does that make sense?

Something like:

AV. p(noeffect). p(stun U ko U chart). p(ko U chart). p(chart)

Also, how does the +s/o list work? For example, you may be weighing up the chances of p(sent off + no break) vs p(not sent off + cas) or even p(cas). THAT chart would be AWESOME.

If it makes your life easier, I like looking at numbers, so don't worry about the graph

dode74 · Post by **dode74** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:29 pm

Well I think the graph as it is shows cumulative probabilities for the injuries, does it not? I can provide that numerically if you want.

RogueThirteen · Post by **RogueThirteen** » Fri May 18, 2012 9:34 pm

The point of Sneaky Git is exactly that it lets you foul systematically without the numbers. When you've got a player who can throw a foul every turn without the need for any other assists and set-up this can be quite valuable (but should still only be done against targets you'd really be happy with stunning and possibly losing a player to do so).

It's not like the player is doing NOTHING if he fails the boot, because at the very least he's marking an opponent's downed player. For many teams in many circumstances, this is a good thing.

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Fri May 18, 2012 9:45 pm

To re-quote myself:

Digger Goreman wrote:For me, there has to be an advantage... and it's subjective:

If you're an Elf or Dwarf... you're gonna get fouled...!

If you have an irritating or cheesy skill set... you're gonna get fouled...!

If you're wearing/spouting greedy wank'rs promotional material... or are just an insufferable git... you're gonna get fouled...!

If you have Ag 4+... you're highly likely to get fouled...!

If you're the "lynch-pin" of the team... (positional, et al., with the rest of the team being gimp linemen)... you're highly likely to get fouled...!

If you're a "Spam-a-Lot" team (ubiquitous block/dodge/leap/etc.)... you're highly likely to get fouled...!

If I can guarantee you can't reach my ball carrier if you're not there... you're likely to get fouled...!

If I can "clear the lane" or "even the field" (especially if I can trade a cheap lineman for an expensive opponent)... you're likely to get fouled...!

If I have a deep bench... you're likely to get fouled...!

If I'm really losing the game... you're likely to get fouled...!

If you're outnumbered and my kicking you while you're down means you likely won't get up... you're likely to get fouled...!

All you need to know about fouling....

burgun824 · Post by **burgun824** » Sat May 19, 2012 2:05 pm

RogueThirteen wrote:The point of Sneaky Git is exactly that it lets you foul systematically without the numbers. When you've got a player who can throw a foul every turn without the need for any other assists and set-up this can be quite valuable (but should still only be done against targets you'd really be happy with stunning and possibly losing a player to do so).

I completely agree with this statement...and pretty much everything Digger said.

Shortarse · Post by **Shortarse** » Sun May 20, 2012 7:27 am

Have to say I only ever foul when absolutely sure the benifits outweigh the loss of the player and always assume I'll be caught. Of course with stunties the potential benifits nearly always outweigh the loss of a gobbo, halfling or Snotling.

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