Passing Roll Results chart

fidius · Post by **fidius** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:01 am

There's always a ton of confusion over the passing rules so I thought a solid use of procrastination time would be to design a chart for it. Forgive me if it's been done and can be found elsewhere...

Edit: this is the latest version (2013-10-20). pm me if you would like the Excel or PDF.

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dode74 · Post by **dode74** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:02 am

Nice.

Shteve0 · Post by **Shteve0** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:32 am

Sweet. Think I might print this out and laminate it for our league, with your consent?

fidius · Post by **fidius** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:01 pm

Sure, of course. Or let me know if you'd like the Excel file so you can resize, etc.

Afroman · Post by **Afroman** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:52 am

Nice work!

How do I get my hands on the Excel?

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:31 pm

BIG NOTE:

SEE AG5 and AG6 are the SAME!

spubbbba · Post by **spubbbba** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:22 pm

Smurf wrote:BIG NOTE:

SEE AG5 and AG6 are the SAME!

MEDIUM NOTE:

Strong Arm doesn’t make much difference either. Especially when you factor in the number of passes that are Quick compared to the others.

zerak · Post by **zerak** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:45 pm

@Afroman:
ignore Excel just download (open source) LibreOffice, it can open any MS format file.. And it is a really good text editor in that as well.

fidius · Post by **fidius** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:18 pm

spubbbba wrote:
MEDIUM NOTE:

Strong Arm doesn’t make much difference either. Especially when you factor in the number of passes that are Quick compared to the others.

Well, it's only worth it if you know you're going to take Accurate later on a normal roll (or for TTM), but we knew that already. You take Acc+SA for long throws, particularly to get over the 4+ hump, ie turning a 75% play into a 89% play (3+ with rr), which means it's attractive to the Short-passing AG2 Thrower (?? Khemri), the Bombing AG4s (Elves), and Long-passing AG3s. Sweet spot is obviously AG3 teams with AG4 receivers, so Skaven, Pact, and Humans/Norse/Zons/etc with +AG targets.

The most interesting point to me is that +AG improves your accuracy (decreases inaccurate chance), while Accurate decreases your fumble chance. MOAR confusion!

Also, a reasonable substitute for both Accurate and SA is Safe Throw, if you're throwing long. Strikes me as a good choice alongside Dump-Off as well, for more than the obvious interception prevention: helps control the spill and avoid fumbles. Arguably equal to NoS anyway (pros/cons).

fidius · Post by **fidius** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:05 am

I've updated the chart to make it easier to read. Also have one with no colours, only letters, great for printing black&white, which I can attach if there's interest.

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