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undead ghouls - anyway to save them?
Is there any way to save a ghoul on an undead team? Or is a dead ghoul a dead ghoul always and forever?
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Yes, he's dead
You've just got to live with the fact that ghouls die
You've just got to live with the fact that ghouls die

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celticgriffon wrote:Is there any way to save a ghoul on an undead team? Or is a dead ghoul a dead ghoul always and forever?
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Just another foolish inconsistency of the beautiful game... vampires and trolls get the happy apo treatment, but the ghouls are biased against...

such an elffed-up deal....
Though, much to Aahz's surprise, a ghoul does qualify to be raised as a zombie if from an opposing team....

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Igor can save a ghoul. Otherwise, Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.celticgriffon wrote:Is there any way to save a ghoul on an undead team? Or is a dead ghoul a dead ghoul always and forever?
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EDIT: No he can't! Thanks for pointing that out, Joemanji.
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Igor cannot save a Ghoul because they don't have regen.
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Sorry - my bad!Joemanji wrote:Igor cannot save a Ghoul because they don't have regen.

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For the record ... one of the changes I really tried to make to the new rulebook when Jervis asked if we could simplify the inducement rules anymore before entering the final 2 years of testing what became the CRP was to delete the IGOR and allow all teams to use a Wandering Apothecary. Since I had already re-written the rules so that it was clear how the Apothecary worked on Vampires ... I saw no reason we could not do this. I'm honestly still not sure why Jervis and the other BBRC members thought it was a bad idea. I still like it.Digger Goreman wrote:Just another foolish inconsistency of the beautiful game... vampires and trolls get the happy apo treatment, but the ghouls are biased against...![]()
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I love playing undead. Probably my favorite team to play ATM. I also hate loosing ghouls because it's annoying and mine always seem to get killed the game after their second skill.
However, I will make the argument that Undead are strong enough already and don't need anymore help. The loss of ghouls helps balance them out a little more IMO. So despite how annoying it is I think it's ultimately for the better that they stay dead.
However, I will make the argument that Undead are strong enough already and don't need anymore help. The loss of ghouls helps balance them out a little more IMO. So despite how annoying it is I think it's ultimately for the better that they stay dead.
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This +1. Also why Necro are a touch better than Undead, given that they only have two players at risk.burgun824 wrote:However, I will make the argument that Undead are strong enough already and don't need anymore help. The loss of ghouls helps balance them out a little more IMO. So despite how annoying it is I think it's ultimately for the better that they stay dead.
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Understood ... which is why I suggested it only apply to the Wandering Apothecary and not the normal permanent Apothecary.
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I'd rather they just had the option of an on-roster Igor, perhaps with the rule that it could be used as a Apo on a non-Regen player (i.e. the ghouls), but one or the other (so if you use it to try to save a ghoul you couldn't use it to reroll a regen). I mean Necromaners and their minions are going to learn a little about anatomy along the way.
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FRA Arrests - Tegu Lizdry and Robius Fordius
Late last night former Desert Dragons Head Coach, Tegu Lizdry, was arrested by the RCMP in his swampy winter retreat near Regina Beach.
Lizdry left his lackluster coaching career in the RFBBL at the beginning of this season when his good friend, Robius Fordius, offered him top position with the Federal Regeneration Agency. They met at Turunga College way back in 1997.
Petitions have already gone up from non-profit activist group RMHU (Regeneration Makes Healthy Undead). They are demanding Lizdry and Fordius be exiled to Lustria.
Lizdry apparently was using Sex-Changed Skinks to create the official Scrolls of Regeneration for the CBBL (Canadian Blood Bowl League). The skinks were under deliberate orders (via Lizdry himself) to mis-translate the scrolls causing them to fail at least 93% of the time.
In a formal interview, The Walker's Head Coach, Jonny Slammer, had this to say, "I am furious. Heads are going to roll from this day forward. And then I am going to dig them up again personally. It is going to be ugly people. I guarantee it."
The Walker's have had a terrible string of events this season. A closure to the RFA Regeneration Scroll Scandal will hopefully stop the bleeding. Knightmare (Wight / 36 SPP's), Son of Mumm-Ra (Mummy / 42 SPP's), and now LC (Ghoul / 85 SPP's) have all been killed within the past few weeks. And to rub salt into the Walkers wounds Lethargy (Ghoul / 41 SPP's) was forced to retire as well.
"It is just not right", said number one Walker's Fan Minnie von Pearl. "The Undead regenerate. That is just how it is. I am overwhelmed today. I demand the Bobbit Penalty for Fordius and Lizdry!"
Life Challenged (LC) was the league's second most experienced player, only a few SPP's behind her team-mate Leaky. And most fans did not know LC (or Elsie) was also the league's top thrower. Yes people, not a human or a Wood Elf - a little Girly Ghoulie.
"Damn LC.. For f*&^ sakes... She popped her head up at the last minute. I didn't mean to hoof her. She was such a fierce opponent. I really dun't likz bumping da chickz", said Mad-Eye Ska-sta-khan.
Despite the ongoing trial we expect a record breaking crowd at the double funeral on Sunday.
"I would expect most of Regina and perhaps Saskatchewan to be in attendance", said lead Administrator at Regina Memorial. "Son of Mumm-Ra and LC were two of the best. We already have about 3000 Zombies outside our office. Our poor Halfling biscuit crews have been working 24/7 for the internment. If they wouldn't eat 1/2 of what they made we would probably be ok."
Whatever happens from then till now, it should be an interesting All-Star Game this Saturday.
~Burnt Cookies – star reporter / Regina Morning Follower
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Late last night former Desert Dragons Head Coach, Tegu Lizdry, was arrested by the RCMP in his swampy winter retreat near Regina Beach.
Lizdry left his lackluster coaching career in the RFBBL at the beginning of this season when his good friend, Robius Fordius, offered him top position with the Federal Regeneration Agency. They met at Turunga College way back in 1997.
Petitions have already gone up from non-profit activist group RMHU (Regeneration Makes Healthy Undead). They are demanding Lizdry and Fordius be exiled to Lustria.
Lizdry apparently was using Sex-Changed Skinks to create the official Scrolls of Regeneration for the CBBL (Canadian Blood Bowl League). The skinks were under deliberate orders (via Lizdry himself) to mis-translate the scrolls causing them to fail at least 93% of the time.
In a formal interview, The Walker's Head Coach, Jonny Slammer, had this to say, "I am furious. Heads are going to roll from this day forward. And then I am going to dig them up again personally. It is going to be ugly people. I guarantee it."
The Walker's have had a terrible string of events this season. A closure to the RFA Regeneration Scroll Scandal will hopefully stop the bleeding. Knightmare (Wight / 36 SPP's), Son of Mumm-Ra (Mummy / 42 SPP's), and now LC (Ghoul / 85 SPP's) have all been killed within the past few weeks. And to rub salt into the Walkers wounds Lethargy (Ghoul / 41 SPP's) was forced to retire as well.
"It is just not right", said number one Walker's Fan Minnie von Pearl. "The Undead regenerate. That is just how it is. I am overwhelmed today. I demand the Bobbit Penalty for Fordius and Lizdry!"
Life Challenged (LC) was the league's second most experienced player, only a few SPP's behind her team-mate Leaky. And most fans did not know LC (or Elsie) was also the league's top thrower. Yes people, not a human or a Wood Elf - a little Girly Ghoulie.
"Damn LC.. For f*&^ sakes... She popped her head up at the last minute. I didn't mean to hoof her. She was such a fierce opponent. I really dun't likz bumping da chickz", said Mad-Eye Ska-sta-khan.
Despite the ongoing trial we expect a record breaking crowd at the double funeral on Sunday.
"I would expect most of Regina and perhaps Saskatchewan to be in attendance", said lead Administrator at Regina Memorial. "Son of Mumm-Ra and LC were two of the best. We already have about 3000 Zombies outside our office. Our poor Halfling biscuit crews have been working 24/7 for the internment. If they wouldn't eat 1/2 of what they made we would probably be ok."
Whatever happens from then till now, it should be an interesting All-Star Game this Saturday.
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Its maybe where the expression 'Came to a ghoulish end' come from 

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In older fluff, Ghouls were supposed to be a subspecies of humans that had debased themselves by feeding on the dead but weren't technically dead themselves. Newer Crypt Ghouls seem to be actually undead so there would be cause to give them Regeneration. Of course they'd come with a 90 or 100k sticker price.
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